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Offline cmac

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Grease hole;what grease
« on: August 11, 2012, 03:17:25 PM »
Interested in what different stuff folks put in a grease hole. What works well for shooting and doesn't run out in the heat?

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Re: Grease hole;what grease
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2012, 04:51:56 PM »
was just thinkin on that myself.  Kinda feel I should either put grease on the hole on my Dixie Poor Boy or fill it w something else - lead?
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2012, 04:58:42 PM »
I don't have a grease hole, whatever that is. :) But if I did I think I'd use something like mink oil. Something spreadable but somewhat solid so it wouldn't run out.

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Re: Grease hole;what grease
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2012, 06:12:24 PM »
 You need a grease that has at least some venison, or mutton, tallow in it. The grease from these animals is solid, and stiff, but will liquify with the friction produced by rubbing a cloth patch against it. I live in Northern California, where it get well over a hundred degrees in August, and September, ( our deer season) and this stuff stays solid even in this heat, as long as you don't leave the gun in the direct sun. Both these greases have a very high flash point as well, so you won't have to skin a buck in a forest fire. In colder areas bear grease is used to thin this stuff down, so it isn't like a rock.


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Re: Grease hole;what grease
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2012, 10:22:05 PM »
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Interested in what different stuff folks put in a grease hole. What works well for shooting and doesn't run out in the heat?
I used to use bear oil mixed with beeswax to make it stiffer. This worked good for patch lube. I have also used beeswax mixed with paraffin just for looks. The beexwax gave the white paraffin a light yellowish/tan color.
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Re: Grease hole;what grease
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2012, 02:34:51 PM »
I've heard of tallow being used. Some don't like it because it can go rancid. The beeswax and bear oil I may have to try. My dog likes licking the tallow out. I have heard of some filling the hole with wax (for looks not lube). Any other ideas?

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Re: Grease hole;what grease
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2012, 04:19:24 PM »
Buy yourself a block of suet.  Cut off a hunk and press it into the hole with your thumb.
Melt the rest and mix it with birdseed for your fine feathered friends.
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Re: Grease hole;what grease
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2012, 05:21:46 AM »
I've heard of tallow being used. Some don't like it because it can go rancid. The beeswax and bear oil I may have to try. My dog likes licking the tallow out. I have heard of some filling the hole with wax (for looks not lube). Any other ideas?

I've used home rendered beef tallow, by the 3-pound coffee can, made several times over the years. Stored under the kitchen sink, it has never gone rancid or smelled , any more than Mom's grease container on the edge of her stove smelled. Mixed variously my tallow served well as minie' ball lube and as patch lube.

I have used and like bear tallow for patch lube, perhaps five pounds of it rendered carefully with similar results, except the rendering provides a bit of very fine oil, also without problems.

I only have two rifles using a grease hole, and in both I simply change the tallow/beesway mix a little for seasonal use as I have no concern with a frozen patch in the winter in my climate but still want the greased patch to be supple, and  the other mix not to run in summer temperatures and oil the charge when kept out of the sun, loafing in the woods.

Using water in this rendering is unneccessary, as it is a commercial process to extract every bit of tallow possible.  Water was used however in rendering all the cooking scraps, and animal fats to get out the tallow for making soap in times past. 

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Re: Grease hole;what grease
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2012, 02:41:18 PM »
I imagine the old timers used tallow.  It has been around for ages and makes a good lube.  Like Lon said too,  when properly rendered,  it wont get rank.  I've got a supply that I use for BPCR bullet lube thats more than 10 years old and dont expect it to ever go rancid.  Rats and mice love it though,  so dont leave your gun where mouses can get to it or your grease hole might get bigger with jagged edges around it.  :)   

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Re: Grease hole;what grease
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2012, 06:02:42 PM »
 I've not had problems with venison tallow going rancid in the grease hole. It will go rancid in a tin or jar though. I have had problems with bees wax attracting bees, and after long shooting sessions, in the hot summer, a plug in the flash channel, of some patent breeches. Mice will restyle your mountain rifle grease hole, if given a chance. I've seen several originals with this rodent fancy work.

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Re: Grease hole;what grease
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2012, 06:09:20 PM »
Bear grease and beeswax mixture............mostly bear grease
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Re: Grease hole;what grease
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2012, 03:39:20 AM »
I would use SPG. Very stiff , but not overly so that you cant use your finger and get some out.

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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2012, 06:10:16 PM »
While Vaseline is a petrolium product, when mixed with beeswax roughly 60% beeswax/40% Vaseline, the result is a very good BP lube for bullets. It should therefore work OK on patches as well. Increase the Vaseline content to make a softer mix - maybe for patches, 50/50 would be better.  I tried it some time ago in a .45 ML with some bullets and there was no fouling buildup - after 10 shots, no wiping, I was easily able to load a normal .445" ball and .022" patch combination - thus proving to me, the lube worked with BP in a ML.  I already knew it worked in my Sharps without wiping being necessary.

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Re: Grease hole;what grease
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2012, 07:36:37 PM »
Beeswax and bear oil. Are you going to the Banty Memorial shoot up in the mountains in September?

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Re: Grease hole;what grease
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2012, 05:45:53 AM »
I used to mix mutton tallow and bees wax 1/2 and 1/2. Heat and melt together.
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Re: Grease hole;what grease
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2012, 09:12:18 PM »
I usually just fill the hole with a little candle wax and the add a little grease on top of that.
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