Need help identifing and fixing a old rifle

[handym3000]

I bought at auction a very old and unused percusion cap muzzle loader

small caliber below 45 cal
double triggers
no makers mark at all
mother of pearl buttons in the stock

rough estimates from others have been 1840's to 1860's plus or minus years

here is the story on this one

it was found in the wall in a farmhouse in the 1940's during a remodel
it sat above a fireplace till this year when i bought it last week

found near hannibal misssouri

I really need some help determining what it is and how i can get it back into working order

i was told randy heddon was the man to have it fixed by and he is close to me and the best at this type of work.

does any one know how to contact him?

i was also told Curt Johnson in Princeton, Illinois was the best at identify these old rifles.

is there anyway to contact him

here are the pictures of it

http://s926.photobucket.com/albums/ad106/handym3000/muzzlerloader%20unknown/



thank you for all of your help on here.

[Collector]

Back action lock, .44 cal., no defined side panel (rounded), single pin holding forestock to barrel;, no cheekpiece; I'd even bet the barrel is a Remington...  I'd say NY.

[nord]

Identification? Nearly impossible as this gun was made so late that it really could have been made just about anywhere. I'd agree in a better than even chance of a Remington barrel. Style suggests Central NY. (Mohawk Valley and south to Binghamton.)

But... At this late stage of the game many NY makers had migrated westward. They carried their style with them. Further, the furniture and hardware by the time this gun was made was readily available at local retailers.

Without a signature I doubt we'll ever really know much about this little rifle. Caliber is perhaps a bit large for a NY gun of that time, other than for what some refer to as Adirondack Rifles. This one doesn't seem to quite fit that particular style.

[smokinbuck]

Handy,
Looks like someone has already tried to do something to this piece. The tang is not bent to fit the wrist, the rear sight has been removed and put back in backwards and there is a dovetail in the underrib in one of your pictures that that doesn't match up. "Perhaps" this is a late parts rifle?
Mark

[handym3000]

i have no clue on what this rifle is. that's why i came here

black powder is way out of my realm of knowledge.

any idea on what its worth?

[Collector]

handym3000,

It's a very generic piece and over-cleaning and polishing detracts substantially from the value of any antique. 

So, (my) best guess only (with every disclaimer, imaginable, attached to same and your money back on all (my) free advice.):

I'd say +/- $300.00 range and maybe lower.  If I was ever offered $400 for it- I'd take it.  In an antique dealers shop, with no specialization, they'd tag it at about $750.00 for the interior decorators. 

Good luck! 

[Don Stith]

C O Miller was working in Hannibal before and after the civil war. Does not look like his work though.  I suspect New england somewhere and maybe as far south as Philly. The Hannibal reference just caught my eye, that being my hometown