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Offline Bob Roller

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Re: Rebuild 3 Norwegian Percussion Rifle
« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2013, 01:20:29 PM »
Stutzer in Swiss/German is a carbine. In another definition it means "dandy or fop".
Dandy is easy to figure out but fop is almost a non word.

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Re: Rebuild 3 Norwegian Percussion Rifle
« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2013, 09:09:55 PM »
"Fop" is a fine English word! It is, perhaps, said with a little less affection than "dandy."
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Re: Rebuild 3 Norwegian Percussion Rifle
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2013, 01:43:28 AM »
actually Bob , they all were not carbines  and they were made in Norway , Switzerland , Germany,  Belgium  . I could be wrong but I seem to recall the German  one was called a Jeager Gewhere. and the Swiss the  FeldStutzer ,Eidgenössischer Stutzer

http://www.schiferli.net/The%20Swiss%20Feldstutzer%20M51.htm

Offline Chris Treichel

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Re: Rebuild 3 Norwegian Percussion Rifle
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2013, 03:29:50 AM »
Stutzen = literally to be shortened... Jaegerbuechse = hunting rifle... Scheibenbuechse= target rifle

1. [zu stutzen in der veralteten Bedeutung »(in modischer Kleidung) umherstolzieren«, eigentlich wohl = steif aufgerichtet umhergehen] (veraltend abwertend) eitler, auf modische Kleidung Wert legender Mann

To stutzen in the old form (in fancy clothes) umherstolzieren, really well= to walk about stiff and upright, (aged) full of oneself, someone who places great value in their clothes ( synonym would be a dandy)

2.[zu stutzen] knielanger, zweireihiger Herrenmantel  [to stutzen] kneelength, two rowed men's coat

Beim Stutzen (oder, je nach regionaler Mundart, auch: Stutzer) handelt es sich um ein vergleichsweise kurzes, besonders handliches Jagdgewehr mit gezogenem Lauf (also eine Büchse). Der Stutzen ist typisch für den süddeutschen/alpenländischen Raum.

By the Stutzen (or by regional dialect also: Stutzer) is meant a shortened, handy hunting gun with rifled bore (so it is a rifle). The Stutzen is typlical of the Southern German/Alps area. 

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Re: Rebuild 3 Norwegian Percussion Rifle
« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2013, 03:31:26 AM »
That one rifle looks to have an old fashioned target rifle style sight.  Very similar to the snail looking ones the Swiss liked (like to one on the Vetterli). 

Offline Captchee

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Re: Rebuild 3 Norwegian Percussion Rifle
« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2013, 05:13:03 AM »
thank you Chris , very informative.
 that’s why I was wondering  about the 2nd stock in the photo’s .
 nose cap looks  close by the photos  and it apears to have an O to R barrel , just as the one i own does 

 The one I have also has only a single trigger , not double sets .
 The lock has a very heavy main spring and is factually a mule to cock  , but the trigger pull is simply smooth as silk and rather light .

Anyway , I don’t want to draw away from the topic . I was just hoping that if the possibility was there , maybe I could get some measurements or drawings from an original stock
« Last Edit: May 30, 2013, 05:16:18 AM by Captchee »

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Re: Rebuild 3 Norwegian Percussion Rifle
« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2013, 07:43:03 PM »
Hi guys, and thank you!
The old P-1853 & Snider Lock from IMA-USA.COM  was not so bad to be so old, one new screw was made and a little grinding and it smokk on plase :) Not perfect, but it work.
Runar
See no swiwel link in photo? I lost it outside when cleanig the parts me idiota >:( new was made :-\



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Re: Rebuild 3 Norwegian Percussion Rifle
« Reply #32 on: May 31, 2013, 02:30:41 AM »
Makes me feel good to know somebody else loses parts!  ;D


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Re: Rebuild 3 Norwegian Percussion Rifle
« Reply #33 on: June 01, 2013, 04:01:16 PM »
Hi Guys!
The 2 Schuetzen lock plate ned to be weld up on the edge. When I will stikweld, a buddy say I can TIG weld it for you :)Thank you AJ!
So now is # 2 finish, the sear arm is bend down and reharden. The hammer on this one is almost perfect math with the nipple.
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Re: Rebuild 3 Norwegian Percussion Rifle
« Reply #34 on: June 04, 2013, 12:52:02 PM »
Hi!
# 3 lock in plase, This rifle have a funny rear sight adjustable in hight must produce new missing parts. Have only a drawing of a J Myhrvold similar sigth, the frontsight is high not shoot in jet.
Runar
Before welding




It have a sun shield cover :)

















The hammer bend







Offline Kermit

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Re: Rebuild 3 Norwegian Percussion Rifle
« Reply #35 on: June 05, 2013, 03:16:28 AM »
This just gets more amazing, Runar!
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Re: Rebuild 3 Norwegian Percussion Rifle
« Reply #36 on: June 07, 2013, 11:07:22 PM »
Hi


Super Runar!
Great looking sight.

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Re: Rebuild 3 Norwegian Percussion Rifle
« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2013, 12:27:00 AM »
Runastav, it's great to see the project moving along so well.  Personally, I'd like to see you replace that snaky hammer, with one that just cleared the fence and had a little more meat, like the one in the illustration of the rear sight.
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Re: Rebuild 3 Norwegian Percussion Rifle
« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2013, 12:42:02 PM »
Hi, and thank you all!
Taylor, my doctor say it is better to be slim or to be fat HeHe ;) Missing sling button made, I use a wagon bolt perfekt litle work in the latch. Missing ramrod with horn rod tip made.
Runar

















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Re: Rebuild 3 Norwegian Percussion Rifle
« Reply #39 on: June 09, 2013, 04:29:14 PM »
Brilliant use of a carriage bolt!


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Re: Rebuild 3 Norwegian Percussion Rifle
« Reply #40 on: June 09, 2013, 07:46:12 PM »
Hi and thank you KLMoors!
A collector friend was here and he bring his very nice Myhrvold rifle. And yes Taylor ofcoarse you have right the hammers are to high. So I cut, weld and file the 2 hammers and it looks much better I think. The Myhrvold rifle have a very nice rearsight, think I will make one for the underhammer rifle ;)
Runar
Before the hammer fix

Cut and weld

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Re: Rebuild 3 Norwegian Percussion Rifle
« Reply #41 on: June 16, 2013, 03:25:02 PM »
Hi Guys!
Plum Brown is nice and easy, the rifles is now ready for testshooting. I will go over the stocks later ;)
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Re: Rebuild 3 Norwegian Percussion Rifle
« Reply #42 on: June 16, 2013, 04:21:24 PM »
Awesome! Great job man!  :D
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Re: Rebuild 3 Norwegian Percussion Rifle
« Reply #43 on: June 16, 2013, 06:37:33 PM »
Good grief! That didn't take long at all.

Well done!

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Re: Rebuild 3 Norwegian Percussion Rifle
« Reply #44 on: June 16, 2013, 07:50:30 PM »
All I can say is WOW!  What a tranformation.  From junk to shootable in no time flat. You are truly an artist.  Thanks so much for the education.

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Re: Rebuild 3 Norwegian Percussion Rifle
« Reply #45 on: June 16, 2013, 10:05:57 PM »
Maybe they should be called "resurection rifles." You surely have restored life to what was abandoned. I hope you will share your shooting experiences as well.
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