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Offline David R. Pennington

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Dad's Bogle rifle finally done!
« on: August 24, 2013, 09:07:47 PM »
Finally finished Dad's rifle. Had a time getting triggers and lock set up. Couldn't get the front trigger to fire unset. First I figured I had sear too short so I built it up a little. Still not right so I added a backlash screw under the trigger spring. This worked OK till I drew the side nails up snug then the sear wouldn't drop in the full cock notch. After almost two candles worth of soot I finally found the culprit. I had been a little overzealous in my sear arm length and it extended a little past the trigger mortise and was hanging up on the bottom of the far side of the sear arm clearance hole.
Well I am trying to post some pictures, I hope it works. (Easier to fix my triggers than figure this computer stuff out.)
Barrel is 13/16 .45. Lock is L&R Bailes I put together out of parts. Triggers are modified kit from TOW. Everything else is homemade except the wood screws. Side nails and tang screw made out of drill rod with heads forge welded on. Wood is from a blank I got for cheap because it had worm holes. All the worm holes worked out except for a couple just back of  :-[the cheek piece. Stain is homemade aqua fortis. Gun weighs about 7.25 lbs.. Constructive criticism welcome.   


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Re: Dad's Bogle rifle finally done!
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2013, 09:37:52 PM »
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Re: Dad's Bogle rifle finally done!
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2013, 10:54:27 PM »
Very Nice!
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Re: Dad's Bogle rifle finally done!
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2013, 10:59:47 PM »
Good job Rick! Is that lock from some of the parts I sold you? You should have been out to the flea market today. I picked up a factory halfstock for $25. Cleaned it up and test fired it. Needs work but it can wait. In the middle of forging a lock for the next build. Bring that thang out to the range next shoot why don't ye.

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Re: Dad's Bogle rifle finally done!
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2013, 11:16:11 PM »
Good afternoon Sir; I was just thinking how nice that there rifle would like over my shoulder at Septembers shoot. Real good. Very nice job . Thanks for sharing. AJ.
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Re: Dad's Bogle rifle finally done!
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2013, 11:39:37 PM »
Looks great ;D
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Re: Dad's Bogle rifle finally done!
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2013, 12:05:36 AM »
Yes Bob that is the lock born out of those parts I got from you. Thanks for the help on the photos. My computer guy is away at college now. Hopefully I can get Dad out to the range to shoot it. Haven't shot it yet. Should do well. Lock seems really quick. Touch hole is coned on inside of barrel.  Plan to surprise him with it tomorrow for his birthday (a few days late). I'll stitch him up a case out of some old blanket scraps this evening so he can carry it home legal.
Hey Bob I didn't make it over there this morning. Your turn for the bargains. Sounds like you found one. What kind of rifle is it? What's the lock you're working on going on?
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Re: Dad's Bogle rifle finally done!
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2013, 12:10:04 AM »
  Very well done David.

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« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2013, 03:11:30 AM »
I'm sure he'll love it. You need to bring him to the next shoot. Those Mantons are quick. The one I put on the squirrel gun is about as fast a lock as I've ever shot except maybe that mule ear I made. Speaking of locks, I'm attempting to forge one from wrought iron. I've got the cock forged and have been filing it. I hope Brumfield was telling the truth when he said it was the hardest part to make.

A feller had a CVA plastic rifle and a Traditions side hammer there and said he'd take $50 for both. I told him I didn't want the CVA, have no use for 'em but I would give him $25 for the halfstock. While I was there another feller I know bought the CVA for $20. Anyways, I figured the barrel was worth something, the rifling didn't look too bad. The stock has some cracks around the lock mortise that had been glued pretty sloppy but by the time I reshape and finish the stock I think it can be fixed up pretty good. Got a patent breech which I don't like. I pulled the drum and got in there and cleaned it up and replaced the frozen cleanout screw. Had to turn it down in the lathe and re-drill the hole. The barrel was really rusty but I didn't see any pits. I scrubbed her out good and found some old oxidized .495's. loaded her up and tied it to a tire for the first shot. Then I wiped (the rifle), loaded it up again and tried a shot from the shoulder at a rotten log behind the shop. I hit it. Those balls are real tight and I had to really ram 'em down and with only 60 grs. it kicked like a mule. I think a man would need .490's and maybe a lighter patch. And I need to clean and tune the lock and triggers. It's not what I would buy normally, but at $25 I ain't going to pass up a shootable sidehammer. I get her fixed up it could be used as a loaner at the range or I can sell it to somebody starting out that can't afford a custom piece. IT's still not as good a deal as that $12 barrel you found! But anyhoo, you did fine on that rifle and try to get your Pap and it out o the range. We'll see you in a couple of weeks.


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Re: Dad's Bogle rifle finally done!
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2013, 04:21:45 AM »
David R, These pics are from one of your links:




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Re: Dad's Bogle rifle finally done!
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2013, 04:38:12 AM »
Nice work Dave.  You're a good son.  Bogle couldn't have done better.
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Re: Dad's Bogle rifle finally done!
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2013, 03:44:37 PM »
Thanks guys for the encouragement. He'll be over after church for dinner. We'll see how he likes it.
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Re: Dad's Bogle rifle finally done!
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2013, 11:30:41 PM »
Went out to the range this morning with Dad and his new rifle. Right off the bench without touching the sights it clover leafed three shots in the nine ring at 25 yards with 45 gr. 3F. With 50 grains it cut center. I probably will have to increase trigger pull some for him. Even adjusted out the set trigger is too light for him. I can increase trigger main spring tension and probably do it. What do you guys think? May have to widen rear sight notch out a mite.
Wow is it fast with that little L&R Bailes lock and the touch hole coned with Mr. Snyder's tool! You just think about laying your finger on the front trigger and there is a hole in the target!
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Re: Dad's Bogle rifle finally done!
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2013, 11:33:45 PM »
Congrats on your results!


The Bailes lock is fast and strong. It does not have a lot of mass, so it doesn't vibrate the gun much at all. This would be my first choice lock for an off-hand target gun. I'd also ask Bob Roller to build it for me.
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Re: Dad's Bogle rifle finally done!
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2013, 08:28:14 PM »
most excellent! 

(I have a Bailes and a Roller(LK) in the "lock box")
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Re: Dad's Bogle rifle finally done!
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2013, 03:17:42 AM »
David, Nice Rifle. Enjoy it. Great pic's to. I noticed the front sight, How does it work for you?.
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Re: Dad's Bogle rifle finally done!
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2013, 03:30:18 AM »
Well,big boy,now that is done,time to get that Henry barrel in a piece of wood.Just finishing up an early style flint pistol.Dave F

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Re: Dad's Bogle rifle finally done!
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2013, 02:51:15 PM »
Duca, the front sight is filed with two angles on the back side. I usually have to play with the adjustment (filing), but the idea is the part on top of the backside is filed so the coin silver catches the light and the bottom part filed at the different angle is shaded. On long shots I can sight with the shiny part above the rear sight notch without having to hold so high on the target, still keeping the bulls eye in the sight picture. Make sense?
I know it's not PC but neither are sights this high on a long rifle. I learned about heat waves on my first build that I put traditional PC low sights on and had to change them to shoot a match.

Mountain man, I told myself I wasn't going to start another rifle build till I got some little projects done I've wanted to do. Boxes, horns, knives, bags, etc..,. but that other barrel is lying in the rafters of the shop right over my work bench and every time I walk in there it calls out to me. It's sort of like a little puppy whining for your attention. It's hard to ignore it.
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