Author Topic: Chip Repair Instruction Needed on Non-Muzzleloader Vintage Rifle..  (Read 3137 times)

Mattole

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Happy New Year's eve to you, gentlemen.

I am coming here for your expertise with a question that is not related to muzzleloaders. Moderator, if this seems improper please delete this post with my apologies.

I have a fine old GI M1 carbine whose stock has a chip in it where the action screw goes in, and I am wondering how to fix it. I am imagining taking a curved chisel and removing the specific area around the chip, and then replacing it with a similar piece chiseled from inside the action area. I certainly don't want to proceed until I know more!

If anyone can provide some basic instruction on how to approach this sort of thing I would appreciate it. I would sure like to get this lovely ole M1 squared away and am sure the knowledge will serve me with repairs on my muzzleloaders in the future as well!

Thanks,
Kevin

« Last Edit: December 31, 2013, 09:45:15 PM by Mattole »

Offline FDR

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Re: Chip Repair Instruction Needed on Non-Muzzleloader Vintage Rifle..
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2013, 10:45:25 PM »
Anything you do will show so I would keep the repair at a minimum.  Mask Off the inside of the curvature of the rifle tang with some masking tape. Use a couple layers to build up a stiff dam. Then mask the area around the chip on the stock real good.
The carbine stock is walnut so you need a quantity of walnut saw dust to use as a filler. I would fill the chip area with sawdust then saturate the sawdust with super glue. Let this dry and repeat as nesessary to just over fill the area of the chip then work the filler back down to the original stock contour.

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Re: Chip Repair Instruction Needed on Non-Muzzleloader Vintage Rifle..
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2013, 11:03:01 PM »
I have used glue and sawdust to cover some mistakes, but always where it was obscured by some other detail.    I think such a repair would stand out here like a sore thumb.   I would clean up the chip out and glue in a matching piece of walnut and then profile to match the surounding wood.   My feeling is that would make a less visible repair, but that is just my opinion.   I think how well any approach to such a repair works is the individuals skill at the technique chosen.   I would go with the approach you are most confident you can pull off with a good result.   

No matter what you do,  go to Highland Hardwares web site and order some DeGlue Goo and some superglue remover.   The DeGlue Goo is a vinegar based product that dissolves water based glues like hide glue and the various wood glues.   Superglue remover is nitro methane.    With these tools in hand,  you can undo whatever you do, if it doesn't work out quite right.   I have had to glue an old stock back together that was more like a jigsaw puzzle.    It took several tries with hide glue to get it back together in a way I was satisfied with the result.   I used a half a bottle of DeGlue Goo and a bit of the nitro-methane to remove somebody elses repair attempt.   I am really not crazy about using superglue for conservation work.   

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Re: Chip Repair Instruction Needed on Non-Muzzleloader Vintage Rifle..
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2013, 11:17:34 PM »
I agree with Mark - you should take a chunk of walnut with the same grain and press it into the existing hole.  That particular section of wood will absorb a lot of finish and end up pretty dark; glue and sawdust will look like glue and sawdust, only marginally darker than the stock looks right now.  I would flatten out the bottom of that chip, then rough it slightly, and heavily press the new piece into it with a clamp.  Trim off the excess with a sharp blade, then sand down to match.  If you applied good enough pressure and have a tight enough fit, the repair should all but disappear.  Good luck!
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Re: Chip Repair Instruction Needed on Non-Muzzleloader Vintage Rifle..
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2014, 12:59:26 AM »
Mattole
I like your origional idea. "removing the specific area around the chip, and then replacing it with a similar piece chiseled from inside the action area."

I've never had good luck with sawdust either.

Thom

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Re: Chip Repair Instruction Needed on Non-Muzzleloader Vintage Rifle..
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2014, 01:21:00 AM »
I think you have good answers and since this is not a traditional sidelock muzzleloader I will now lock the thread.
Dennis
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