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Offline Majorjoel

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Antique Axe Heads
« on: February 15, 2014, 03:10:22 AM »
A friend asked if I would forward a photo for you to post on the ALR forum. The axe heads are very old. The double flared head one is from 1760. The other is hand hammered from 1835. Both have new curly maple handles. Not for sale, just for show.
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Dan Brawner
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Re: Antique Axe Heads
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2014, 04:13:59 AM »
The bottom axe head has a lot of ballpeen hammer characteristics.
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Re: Antique Axe Heads
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2014, 07:12:36 AM »
Neat pics.  Thanks for showing them.
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Re: Antique Axe Heads
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2014, 03:42:52 PM »
 Where do the dates come from, are the heads dated?


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Re: Antique Axe Heads
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2014, 01:28:33 AM »
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The axe heads are very old. The double flared head one is from 1760. The other is hand hammered from 1835.
I will admit not being very familiar with antique ax heads but I have never seen anything like either one of these. I would be most interested in knowing more about how the dates were arrived at. Can anyone fill me in?
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Re: Antique Axe Heads
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2014, 02:24:12 AM »
Sorry Dennis and fella's, I'm just the delivery boy here. :-X
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Re: Antique Axe Heads
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2014, 04:11:13 PM »
For more information about the axes, contact pegboyleston@gmail.com.
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Re: Antique Axe Heads
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2014, 05:27:01 PM »
I have to say I'm not sure of the purpose of this post.Neither of these axe heads appear to be from the represented dates.They both appear to be reworked ball peen hammers.I think we do a great disservice to present items such as these with dates attached as we further wrong impressions of what a 1760 ax really looks like.Since the person who made the handles and quite possible forged the heads has been banned from here I have to wonder why they have been presented here in this manner.

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Re: Antique Axe Heads
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2014, 06:55:55 PM »
Sorry for this Mitch, I did not know the friend of the friend source for this. You can delete this entire thread if you want to........Joel
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Re: Antique Axe Heads
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2014, 07:16:23 PM »
Joel

No issue with Steve's work being pictured.He does distinctive and sometimes interesting Contemporary work.My only issue is how they were labeled possibly confusing future students of 18th and 19th century work.

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Re: Antique Axe Heads
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2014, 10:02:27 PM »
OK, I do not know the person who handled the heads and have no connection with the owner or poster. 

If one scrolls down this page to the section on "Polled Hatchets," one would see a blade shape very close to the top "axe" head shown earlier in this thread:

http://furtradetomahawks.tripod.com/id19.html

However, the poll does not seem correct.  The lower of the three hatchets in the photo is the one I'm referring to and is described above it as:

"The bottom one weighs 12 oz. total and measures 5.125" x 2.5" wide, circa mid to late 18th C.  Charles Hanson in MFTQ, Vol 15, No. 1 identifies these an  '18th C. iron hunter's tomahawk' which had better balance & workmanship than the 'squaw axe' [common round polled trade axe] which was better adapted for both chopping & throwing.  Unfortunately Hanson never gave any sources or reasons as to why he identifies them as such.   I've never heard of the term "hunters tomahawk" from any other source before or since.   Hartzler and Knowles identify the same exact style as belt axes but mention no criteria for doing so either.    The terminology is loose and fancy free in these categories and will change with each write that addresses them.  Whether they were used as weapons or not is usually in the eyes of the beholder and no more so in this category does Confirmation Bias affect that decision.   There is a tendency for some collectors to see only what they want to see--all the more reason to rely on verifiable physical evidence based on proven examples & physical features rather than indiscriminate feelings.  To my knowledge none have ever been proven or even show evidence of having been used as weapons."

I am NOT even suggesting either of the two heads are correct, but the shape of the top one intrigued me, so I thought I might post this. 

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Re: Antique Axe Heads
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2014, 06:00:16 AM »
Dan,

Where in TN do you live.  I'm in Sevierville in eastern TN.  Maybe you could teach me a thing or two about period accouterments.  Rusty