Well if that's the best you can do, so be it. I am now starting to think the Raffle is where to get a good knife- I love this knife as it looks like the type that comes from Norway, made for skinning Raindeer. It has a good Scandinavian look from one end to the other. You guys making knives for Bennefits need to send me one for my Bennefit. Hope people on here post more of these type of knives as I love them all. The Great Pinyone