Author Topic: Need help to ID Long Rifle  (Read 5026 times)

Ridecontrol

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Need help to ID Long Rifle
« on: February 19, 2009, 01:46:30 AM »
I recently aquired a Long Rifle which I do not intend to keep as my interests are WW I and WW II weapons. It has a  full stock, double set triggers, .38 cal (I think)..40" bbl.."H. Elwell" lock and "FN Barger" on bbl.

Any idea of origin or value? I have photos if they would help

Thank you in advance,
Ken In Ohio
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Offline Curt J

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Re: Need help to ID Long Rifle
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2009, 03:58:26 AM »
Frederick N. Barger made rifles in Champaign County, Ohio, 1836 - 1880 or later. He was born in Virginia in 1813. I would not attempt to put a value on a gun I cannot examine.

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Re: Need help to ID Long Rifle
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2009, 05:24:25 AM »
Is this the gun for sale on Gun Broker?

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Re: Need help to ID Long Rifle
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2009, 05:29:47 AM »
Interesting..... 

In American Firearms Makers by A. Merwyn Carey, there is a listing for an "H. Elwell, about 1770. Flintlock Kentucky rifle maker at Liverpool, Pa."

There is also a listing for "Fredric N. Barger, 1836-1881. Maker of percussion rifles and smoothbores, shop at Concord, Oh."  There is a Concord township in Champaign County.  Obviously the same fellow CurtJ identified, but while likely, it doesn't proof he is your FN Barger.

I have no clue as to the value, but would enjoy seeing pictures.  Please post.

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Re: Need help to ID Long Rifle
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2009, 05:41:40 AM »
Looks like an Ohio gun from the 1840's-50's, in my opinion. The fractured wrist has some bearing for me as far as value, but some may not feel that way about it. But the gun is signed which does help. It is hard to give value over an internet picture though.    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=123249911

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Re: Need help to ID Long Rifle
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2009, 10:10:36 PM »
I think $350/450 would be a good price.
It is all there, has decent wood, an old finish, and actually has pretty nice lines. The repair was no doubt done during its time of use.
And it's in better condition than a lot of late, plain, rifles.
Good luck on your sale.
John
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