I use Pumice stone and then Rotten stone. I dip a soft cotton rag in either Mineral oil or Linseed oil then dip it in one of the stone powders and rub it in a circular motion. It takes the shine away and leave a mellow sheen. My opinion is to make sure you have developed several coats of the finish and don't over do the rubbing so you still leave a protective water resistant covering of the Permalyn. I think it is the best protector for your stock with Chambers "oil" a close second. Several here have other opinions. Good luck, Bob