1812 Springfield Musket bought??

[Bigmon]

I try my best to accumulate anything "Springfield".  I tell my wife I cant afford to be a collector.
Anyway last nite at an auction I bought what was advertised as a 1812 Springfield musket.  There is indeed  the date 1812 on the lock plate.  It is pretty rough condition but basically all there.  Appears to have been re-converted back to flint.
Has the full length 42" barrel and stock.
I do allot of work and build also so I may do some restoration work.
But basically I am trying to identify the model of the gun. I think 1812 is just the year it was made?
I had a n antique gun bbook with me and the musket was in the book but not allot on it.
Has a brass trigger gd,
I would like to send some pics to anyone that might be more familiar with these?
Thanks

[Bill Paton]

If you can send photos to me at wapaton.sr@gmail.com, my library will be happy to try to identify it for you.

Bill Paton

[vtbuck223]

I don't recall...off the top of my head mind you....Springfield muskets from that period as having brass trigger guards?  It will be interesting to see a picture of what you have....possibly a state contract musket?...photos will tell the story

[longrifle]

Post some photo's

[Bigmon]

Thanks all for the reply.
Gee, I got this thing out in the sun lite to take photos and I'm starting to wonder.
It is in pretty rough condition.  Still its over 200 years old.
Pretty sure it has been re-converted back to flint.
I reeally need to ID what it actually is and then decide if I want to try and resatore it any, if at all?
I am sending pics to as you asked, but cannot post on this site.
Thanks all, please help if ya can.
Brad

[realtorone]

If its dated 1812 and it marked Springfield its a M-1795 type III(1808 Thur 1814.

George

[Bigmon]

Thanks ya'all.
Thats what a good friend of mine has been able to determine.  He believes it is an MODEL 1895 third type.
He has allot better internet service than I.
I now have to determine just how messed up it is.
It is in pretty poor condition, but mostly is complete.
But the brass TG has me puzzled?  I dont think that is correct.
I am inclined to try and restore it as much as possible, and affordable.
It is so rough that it cant be worth much any how.  But I dont know if the extra work and correct parts would make it worthwhile either?
At any rate, thanks to you all.
Brad

[realtorone]

Correct trigger guard is iron One will run any where up to $200 depending on condition.

George

[vtbuck223]

Just keep in mind that the "correct" trigger guard is whatever was on it at the time it was originally put together...yes....but...it is also possible.... if not likely that what you have was never a government contract Springfield...but rather made for private sale...maybe even as a militia musket.  There are many, many such examples out there with  government inspected parts from that era....right down to the proofed barrels. Very often they appear to be a pattern musket in ALMOST every aspect.  However...hard to say without pictures...could be as you suggest that it was just altered during the course of its' life.

[JTR]

And I would suggest that you do absolutely nothing to it until you know exactly what you have.
John

[eddillon]

email photos to me.  I'll post them for you.
eddillon@neconos.com