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Offline Dennis Glazener

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An original NC banded horn
« on: July 07, 2017, 08:47:27 PM »
I can not remember if I have shown photos of this horn or not. But seeing Michael Briggs interesting Mecklenburg County NC horn reminded me that some might enjoy seeing this one. It belongs to a Cousin of mine and was handed down through his family with the Gillespie rifle owned by his grandfather.

I am sorry about the poor photos but these are all I have.

I had a couple of people that were knowledgeable about NC horns tell me that they felt sure the horn was originally made at Old Salem in one of the Moravian trade shops. One of them told me that he had seen tools there that he was sure were used to make powder horns. I have no idea if this is where it was made or not but the horn and rifle came from that general area of NC
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Re: An original NC banded horn
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2017, 08:56:45 PM »
 ;D ;D... Thanx, Dennis... remarkable horn... !!! ..(and rifle)... !!!

Offline rich pierce

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Re: An original NC banded horn
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2017, 10:04:02 PM »
My goodness what a horn!
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Re: An original NC banded horn
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2017, 10:29:42 PM »
 Neat, certainly at one time it had an applied tip, what a loss.

  Tim C.

 A link to Michael's horn:

  http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=44660.msg438333#msg438333
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Re: An original NC banded horn
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2017, 12:42:25 AM »
That is a great horn. I love to see them well used. The old boy was a hunter with all that wear. Thanks for sharing.

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Re: An original NC banded horn
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2017, 12:48:21 AM »
That is a great horn Dennis.  It has a lot of character. 
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Re: An original NC banded horn
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2017, 12:48:53 AM »
Nice.  I like that. Thanks for sharing it.

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Re: An original NC banded horn
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2017, 01:06:23 AM »
 Very nice. Thanks for sharing, Dennis   Bob
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Re: An original NC banded horn
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2017, 02:13:41 AM »
I love it. That horn an gun has spent many a day makin meat for the family
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Re: An original NC banded horn
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2017, 12:37:04 AM »
 I thought that horn looked familiar, here is my rendition of it made some years ago. A tip and a couple of bands have been added, looking at it now, the tacks are to high and the Butt to pronounced. Had a bird on it that looked like a Chicken, if I remember right?   If I am not mistaken Sam Everly made one too.




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Re: An original NC banded horn
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2017, 01:23:06 AM »
Hey Tim,

Looks like the tacks on the original may simply be worn down.  The horn you made looks super.  I like it!   Best wishes, and God Bless,   Marc

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Re: An original NC banded horn
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2017, 02:05:56 AM »
 8) 8)...Great job. Tim ....I like to see authentic re-creations of originals, both horns & guns...I know, as makers (and artists I might add)...we sometimes use our "artistic  license " .... but I like exact copies when it comes to historical reproductions ......BTW....do you have a fine Gillespie rifle copy to accompany  your horn...??? ;) ;)
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Re: An original NC banded horn
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2017, 02:13:48 AM »
Hey Cades Cove,

I wouldn't put it past Tim to have one.  That man can make ANYTHING, and seems to be good at everything. 

Best wishes,   Marc

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Re: An original NC banded horn
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2017, 03:36:54 AM »
I thought that horn looked familiar, here is my rendition of it made some years ago. A tip and a couple of bands have been added, looking at it now, the tacks are to high and the Butt to pronounced. Had a bird on it that looked like a Chicken, if I remember right?   If I am not mistaken Sam Everly made one too.




 Tim C.
Yep that's it, Ok still use the horn! Sam Everly had one made by a lady in NC.
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Re: An original NC banded horn
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2017, 04:39:45 PM »
Nice looking horns. Are the bands applied or are they an integral part of the horn?

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Re: An original NC banded horn
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2017, 04:59:51 PM »
Wonderful.  Thanks for sharing
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Re: An original NC banded horn
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2017, 07:14:58 PM »
Nice looking horns. Are the bands applied or are they an integral part of the horn?

  They are applied.

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Re: An original NC banded horn
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2017, 01:11:10 AM »



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Here's one with the embossments carved from the horn.
That is a beauty Dennis, thank you for posting it.
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Re: An original NC banded horn
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2017, 02:58:17 AM »
Thanks for taking the time to post this horn Dennis. I always joy seeing the old ones.

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Re: An original NC banded horn
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2017, 05:14:13 AM »
Dennis, it is always interesting to see a rifle and horn still together. Thanks for posting. And Tim, I really like your interpretation. 
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Re: An original NC banded horn
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2017, 06:02:50 PM »
Dennis,
I believe this horn or one identical to it was on display a couple of years ago at the Carson House on Hwy 70 west of Marion, N.C.  I studied it and took some photos of it. I remember the bird engraved on it.  I agree it is from the Piedmont.

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Re: An original NC banded horn
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2017, 02:18:26 AM »
My cousin is not into gun/horn shows and lives near Raleigh. May well have been another one similiar to it. Of course someone may have borrowed it and had it on display.
Dennis
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Re: An original NC banded horn
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2017, 09:42:05 PM »
So, how many years of wood fires, and, how much home grown turbacci had to be smoked around this horn to. Give it this much color?

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Re: An original NC banded horn
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2017, 05:31:37 PM »
Hungry Horse, look at the close up showing the scrim.  It appears to me that someone at some point shellac finished the horn, and the shellac darkened.  In the close up it looks to me like the shellac finshed has cracked and crazed.

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Re: An original NC banded horn
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2017, 04:08:22 AM »
  Dennis thanks for showing. Very nice horn an rifle set.

 Tim mighty fine work also.  Oldtravler