Replacement Tumbler for Large Siler

[Dwshotwell]

I'm in the middle of my first build (Early Virginia kit from Tennessee Valley) and managed to break the tumbler on my lock (don't ask - dumb rookie move). It is the Chambers Large Siler. Chambers apparently only offers them un-tempored. My learning curve on my first build is steep enough without having to learn how to temper. Track of the Wolf offers a tempered tumbler for $25, but it says it is for the Deluxe Siler. Can anyone tell me if these would be interchangeable? If not, is there a source for one that would be ready to go?

Thank you. This is my first post, but I've been checking this site every day and learning a lot from all of you regular posters.f

D Shotwell

[t.caster]

They are interchangeable. Don't feel bad, even pro's have rookie moments!

[smylee grouch]

The tumbler will fit in your lock but I thought you needed a mainspring or sear for a deluxe siler if you changed the tumbler. Worth checking out.

[smallpatch]

I just want to know how you break a tumbler?

[Dennis Glazener]

I would call Barbie/Jim and ask if you sent them the lock would they repair it (for a fee naturally). That way you know its done correctly.
Dennis

[bama]

Yes contact Jim and let him know I am sure he will help you

[Dwshotwell]

Thank you everyone. I have reached out to Jim Chambers via the email on his website, and have promised that in addition to paying for the part, I'll take better care of his components going forward.

Since somebody asked how it happened... I had drilled and tapped the holes for the lock plate screws with the lock completely disassembled. After inletting the side plate, I put everything together, with the lock disassembled. Easy. Then, for some reason, I wanted to see what everything would look like put together.... so I reassembled the lock, put it in place, and began screwing the lock plate down. What I didn't realize in my haste was that the screw, still not cut down to size, was protruding through the lock plate and pushing on the hammer. Ofourse it wasn't an issue when the lock was disassembled. I thought the screw was hung up and I gave it a hard twist, and pop... the hammer and the square part of the tumbler that engages with the hammer sheared right off before I realized what was wrong. So, new tumbler.

Embarrassing to type all that out. But worse things have happened, so we pay for a replacement part and we move along.

I have learned a ton in the last few weeks... prior to this project, I had assembled a CVA Hawken back in high school, about 27 years ago, but nothing like a real build. Until starting this project, I don't think I'd ever drilled a hole in a piece of metal, let alone counter-sunk, tapped for threads, etc.

Thanks. This site is fantastic.

[T*O*F]

They're at Friendship.  Don't be surprised if you don't get an answer until next week.

[Marcruger]

Dwshotwell,

If you haven't talked with the Chambers before, you'll find out that they are super folks.  Just wonderful.

God Bless,   Marc

[Jim Chambers]

First, we have plenty of the large Siler tumblers that are ready to install and can mail one out right away.  They are $21 plus $4 shipping.  Just give us a call with a credit card any weekday between 9 & 5.
Second, no, the deluxe tumbler won't work properly in a standard large Siler lock.  You would need to move the mainspring for the deluxe tumbler to work ok.
Jim Chambers

[Dwshotwell]

Thank you so much. I'll call tomorrow to make payment and arrange shipping.

[t.caster]

Thanks to Jim C. for clearing that up, and always taking care of his customers needs.
A good rule of thumb is to always contact the manufacturer FIRST.

[jerrywh]

 I would still like to know how you break a chambers tumbler. Man than things are tough. There tempered like a cold chisel.

[Darkhorse]

I'm wondering what size lock bolt you are using and what your driving it with?