Author Topic: Orphan Hawken Re-do and Ferric Chloride For Coloring Stocks  (Read 3325 times)

Offline SR James

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 150
Orphan Hawken Re-do and Ferric Chloride For Coloring Stocks
« on: August 06, 2017, 11:56:27 PM »
A couple of years ago I picked up a used "Hawken" that had obviously been around awhile, probably since the 70s.  I base that on the Russ Hamm lock and the gun's general appearance.  The gun was well built, with tight inletting.  The stock however had a few issues.  The overall appearance was rough, still showing some rasp marks and the finish had been applied unevenly.  The stain had a marked orange tint.  There was too much wood in some areas and the cheek piece was twice as thick as it should have been.   Still, the patina on the metal parts attracted me and since the problems were mostly cosmetic and the price was dirt cheap, I bought it.
Recently I came across a bottle of Radio Shack PCB Etchant Solution I had bought several years ago to bring out the pattern in a Damascus knife.  It's appearance reminded me of my strong vinegaroon stock stain or really strong aqua fortis.  The label said Ferric Chloride.  Hmmmm...ferric.  So I tried it on several pieces of maple, using it just like aqua fortis...put it on, let it dry, and blushed with a heat gun.  It worked!  The main difference was, unlike AF, there was virtually no red color in any of the four different curly maple samples I tried it on.  The color was mostly brown.  It was also significantly more sensitive to heat application an any AF or ferric nitrate I've used.  It blushed very quickly and deeply.  You can bring the wood to almost black quite easily so care is needed to not go too far.  Light heat gave shades of brown and gold, more heat and the brown tends to go away leaving almost a gray.  Anyway, it would appear to be another choice in stock staining.  I've not tried diluting it (I used it full strength from the bottle) but that may be an option.
So I decided to re-do the orphan Hawken using the ferric chloride.  Pics below before and after so you can judge the results for yourselves.  Removed some excess wood, including the cheekpiece and some minor re-shaping.  Big difference in appearance from what it looked like before.  I left all the metal alone as it already had a nice patina from natural ageing/use.




Two pics of what it looked like before.




After application of the ferric chloride, before blushing.


After blushing.  You can control the color, light/dark areas by varying the heat.






Finished product.  I did a little rubbing back and bone black in select areas but most of the "antiquing" was done during the blushing by varying the heat.


« Last Edit: August 07, 2017, 12:01:19 AM by SR James »

Offline Ray Settanta

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 193
Re: Orphan Hawken Re-do and Ferric Chloride For Coloring Stocks
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2017, 12:23:11 AM »
Looks good. I like the color.

Offline Jerry V Lape

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3028
Re: Orphan Hawken Re-do and Ferric Chloride For Coloring Stocks
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2017, 12:47:02 AM »
Any notion of long term effects of the ferric chloride?  Does it continue to do anything to the wood?  Is there a neutralizing process?  Does the solution in the wood continue to darken or lighten with age? 

Offline SR James

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 150
Re: Orphan Hawken Re-do and Ferric Chloride For Coloring Stocks
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2017, 01:47:24 AM »
Jerry, I don't know.  I did not neutralize as I don't neutralize AF either.  This was somewhat of an experiment and we will see what happens.  I did an internet search on ferric chloride  and read the MSDS before using it but could not find any us of it on wood.
I wore nitrile gloves and used plenty of ventilation while applying it as it is, of course, corrosive.  I let the first test piece sit for a week after blushing it and observed no changes but a week is not much time.  So we shall see.  I would advise people to do their own research before using it.
We have some members here with substantial knowledge of chemistry.  I'm hoping they will chime in.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2017, 01:49:14 AM by SR James »

Offline oldtravler61

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4413
  • We all make mistakes.
Re: Orphan Hawken Re-do and Ferric Chloride For Coloring Stocks
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2017, 03:56:08 AM »
  Sr really like the color. Well done!Oldtravler

Offline Curtis

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2338
  • Missouri
Re: Orphan Hawken Re-do and Ferric Chloride For Coloring Stocks
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2017, 06:23:30 AM »
Sr James, looks good, very interesting experiment!   I have used  ferric chloride solution for browning steel, never thought about using it on wood before.

Curtis
« Last Edit: August 07, 2017, 06:24:25 AM by Curtis »
Curtis Allinson
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sometimes, late at night when I am alone in the inner sanctum of my workshop and no one else can see, I sand things using only my fingers for backing

Offline SR James

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 150
Re: Orphan Hawken Re-do and Ferric Chloride For Coloring Stocks
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2017, 06:28:02 AM »
Hi Curtis. Yeh, I forgot to mention that. It will very definitely brown steel!

Offline Daryl

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15839
Re: Orphan Hawken Re-do and Ferric Chloride For Coloring Stocks
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2017, 07:59:55 AM »
Love the colour!
Daryl

"a gun without hammers is like a spaniel without ears" King George V

Offline JohnnyFM

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 356
Re: Orphan Hawken Re-do and Ferric Chloride For Coloring Stocks
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2017, 03:22:16 PM »
Looking good!  Thanks for sharing.

Johnny

Offline hudson

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 339
Re: Orphan Hawken Re-do and Ferric Chloride For Coloring Stocks
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2017, 04:37:31 PM »
Let’s see, stain wood, brown steel that means one less bottle on my bench. Yep my bench looks allot like yours. Darn it’s hard to keep my bench in order. I do love the colors you achieved.