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Daryl

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Re: Touchhole diameter and accuracy
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2009, 01:49:04 AM »
I guess I'm solidly with Darkhorse on vent size. I drill out the vents to .070", some .0075 over 1/16".  Perhaps I should get the Bevel Bros. to send me their whitelightnings after they replace them - too bad they get obliterated when changing.  Oh well, that happens with the best of the best.  On the .45, with it's 'White' Lightning ignition, I think I'll try a 'factory' liner for accuracy off the bench and see what happens. I'll have a 'pin-vice' handy with a .070" if ignition doesn't suit my purposes for offhand, though.  I've been able to consistently hold 1" and generally 1/2" with the .40 off the bags & using a .070" vent.  My pistol, with it's small J. Bailes lock, greatly increased ignition with a drill-out to .070".  I figure sub-3/4" off the bags at 25 yards pretty good for 5 from a .45 pistol! The larger hole doesn't seem to hurt either to .40 nor the pistol.
  Thanks for a most excellent produce, Jim.
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Re: Touchhole diameter and accuracy
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2009, 02:54:54 AM »
Quote from: Darkhorse on May 07, 2009, 11:13:32 PM
1/16" over a log might be fine but offhand It doesn't work for me with anything over a .40 caliber.
I want reliability and super fast ignition and I drill out one number at a time until I get what I want. I don't see a problem with replacing a WL liner when it needs it.
So what if I get some velocity variation. It affects my accuracy a whole lot less than hangfires and slow ignition while the gun wobbles all over the target.

If a 1/16"  is too slow you have other problems.
I would have to check the 16 bore to see what size it is but properly done like a WL or similar there is little difference, nothing a human could detect anyway.
See Pletchers vent tests.

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Re: Touchhole diameter and accuracy
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2009, 07:19:38 PM »
I had a chunk gun with a large touch hole that wouldnt shoot untill I put in a different size
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Offline Dphariss

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Re: Touchhole diameter and accuracy
« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2009, 06:00:36 PM »
The platinum nipples are 65 I guess ::)

But platinum is 1200 an ounce +-

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Re: Touchhole diameter and accuracy
« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2009, 07:58:45 PM »
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The platinum nipples are 65 I guess

They are up to $80 now.

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But platinum is 1200 an ounce
Considering that only about 2 centimeters of platinum wire are actually used to line the nipple, the cost of the platinum is neglegible.  You could line 75 nipples with 6" of wire.
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Re: Touchhole diameter and accuracy
« Reply #30 on: May 11, 2009, 04:18:56 AM »
Quote from: TOF on May 10, 2009, 07:58:45 PM
You could line 75 nipples with 6" of wire.


Most of what you pay for is labor.
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Offline Brian

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Re: Touchhole diameter and accuracy
« Reply #31 on: May 11, 2009, 05:27:41 AM »
Labor and "know how" or the knowledge/ability to do it.  You have to pay for knowledge – which is only fair.

Reminds me of a story from back on the prairies.

Farmer has problems with his threshing machine.  Just will not run right.  So he calls the dealer and they send out a man.  Guy walks around the machine for a few minutes, then walks over to a bolt and tightens it up half a turn.  Machine now works perfectly.  The guy hands the farmer a bill for $100.  The farmer freaks and says, “$100 – for tightening only one bolt half a turn!”

Guy looks at him and says, “No.  I only charged you a dollar for tightening the bolt.  I charged you $99 for knowing WHICH bolt to tighten”.

Or in this case, knowing HOW to line the nipples/pan.

You pay for knowledge - which is only fair.
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Re: Touchhole diameter and accuracy
« Reply #32 on: May 11, 2009, 06:30:11 PM »
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in this case, knowing HOW to line the nipples/pan.
You pay for knowledge - which is only fair.

Actually you don't.  You pay for the labor as Acer said.  It doesn't just involve taking an available nipple and lining it.  The $80 price tag includes making/turning the nipple as well as the materials involved.  Also you must send your breech so that the nipple can be matched to it.  They are gun specific.
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Re: Touchhole diameter and accuracy
« Reply #33 on: May 11, 2009, 07:44:17 PM »
Righto, Dave, Those guys get very scientific. Just putting in a platinum nipple is like buying a Jaguar carburetor for your Pinto, hoping to get instant results.
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Re: Touchhole diameter and accuracy
« Reply #34 on: May 11, 2009, 09:35:52 PM »
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Just putting in a platinum nipple is like buying a Jaguar carburetor for your Pinto, hoping to get instant results.

Depends on whether they are Webers or not.  Pintos CAN be made to run.
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Re: Touchhole diameter and accuracy
« Reply #35 on: May 11, 2009, 10:08:51 PM »
I have seen a Southern rifle and I do believe by a southern builder (contemporary) with 2 touchholes side by side that kinda blew my mind.  Go figure. ::)
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Re: Touchhole diameter and accuracy
« Reply #36 on: May 15, 2009, 02:58:53 AM »
Quote from: Jim Chambers on March 30, 2009, 01:33:04 AM
A lot of guys would end up with a touch hole that was worth more than their whole gun.  Ha!

I've seen some guns like that...
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