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Offline Scota4570

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Lighter tapered barrels?
« on: August 23, 2017, 07:51:31 PM »
I have project in mind.  I don't see any taperd barrels that are lighter.  They all seem to be for chunky Hawkins.  Is there any reason not to lop off a swamped barrel? 

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Re: Lighter tapered barrels?
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2017, 08:02:37 PM »
Front sight height and length are the only considerations. Some swamped barrels have a long waist also which could look a little strange, or maybe not so noticeable. If you can wait, any barrel maker can make you a tapered barrel.
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Re: Lighter tapered barrels?
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2017, 08:13:50 PM »
I picked up a barrel at the CLA show, 49" straight taper 1" breech to 13/16" muzzle, .50 cal rifled.  I haven't decided yet what I'm going to build around it.  It will take a low rear sight and a tall front one.

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Re: Lighter tapered barrels?
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2017, 08:32:14 PM »
I picked up a barrel at the CLA show, 49" straight taper 1" breech to 13/16" muzzle, .50 cal rifled.  I haven't decided yet what I'm going to build around it.  It will take a low rear sight and a tall front one.

-Ron

Very interesting barrel.  I bet a rifle made with it would "hold" really nice.  I bet that the front and rear sight will come out about equal height to hit POA at 50 yards, if the barrel is straight.  I usually find that  about 0.1" higher rear notch than the front blade to sight in .   

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Re: Lighter tapered barrels?
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2017, 09:44:32 PM »
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Is there any reason not to lop off a swamped barrel? 
I built a rifle for a customer.  He had a 49" swamped barrel and we cut 9" off the front of it.  It worked out fine and shot well.
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Re: Lighter tapered barrels?
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2017, 08:57:01 PM »
Built a Stith S. Hawken w/ a 36" bbl  that tapered from a 1" breech to 7/8" at the muzzle....the customer wanted a .54 elk rifle that could be carried all day w/o tiring him out. This rifle has fulfilled this requirement in being light for a Hawken and the balance is excellent.....Fred

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Re: Lighter tapered barrels?
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2017, 12:51:22 AM »
With regard to cutting off barrels, I've been told that the better makers lap/machine a slight 'choke' at the muzzle that should be preserved - meaning any cutting would have to be done from the breech end. 

That being the case, you might want to look at a custom barrel, can't imagine that they're much more expensive when you factor in the labor to cut and square the muzzle of a swamped barrel?





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Re: Lighter tapered barrels?
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2017, 05:29:53 AM »
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That being the case, you might want to look at a custom barrel, can't imagine that they're much more expensive when you factor in the labor to cut and square the muzzle of a swamped barrel?
That's not the case.  It takes less than an hour to complete the operation with a file, a square, a countersink, and some sandpaper.  It's no big deal.
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Re: Lighter tapered barrels?
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2017, 02:49:19 PM »
Check with Bobby Hoyt. He tappered and cut a 1.060 Diameter
Straight barrel for my VA gun. I suspect he can fix you up pretty quick.
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Re: Lighter tapered barrels?
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2017, 05:50:12 PM »
Cut and crown is fast and easy.  I am equipped to do it in a  lathe.   

I am not aware that any of the production makers that hand lap a choke in their barrels.  I probably would do that myslef, depending on aht the rifle is intended for. 

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Re: Lighter tapered barrels?
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2017, 08:25:28 PM »
Yes round barrel tapered on a lathe is easy, I can do that on my lathe but Bobby took a straight round barrel and finished it out as a a straight tapered octagon barrel.
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Cut and crown is fast and easy.  I am equipped to do it in a  lathe.   

I am not aware that any of the production makers that hand lap a choke in their barrels.  I probably would do that myslef, depending on aht the rifle is intended for. 

Scot
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