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Fiftyfour

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Trigger Guard ID
« on: October 23, 2017, 10:35:12 PM »
Would any here be able to tell me the time period and type of gun this steel trigger guard would have been used on. How could I tell if it is an original and not a repro? Hope the photo up loads. Bought the guard at show.

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Re: Trigger Guard ID
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2017, 10:48:32 PM »
 English or English style....Smoothbore (single) or Shotgun (double)...possibly English style Rifle
 1820s-70s

 It's most likely an old shotgun guard.
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Offline Joe S.

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Re: Trigger Guard ID
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2017, 12:09:23 AM »
Can see where the Hawken boys got the flat to the wrist guard ideas from
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Offline D. Taylor Sapergia

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Re: Trigger Guard ID
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2017, 01:49:49 AM »
I'm guessing that it's from an English Double shotgun...holes in both forward and rear extensions, finial on front extension, thin X section.
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54ball

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Re: Trigger Guard ID
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2017, 02:10:18 AM »
Quote from: Joe S. on October 24, 2017, 12:09:23 AM
Can see where the Hawken boys got the flat to the wrist guard ideas from

 That's nicknamed the "English Scroll Guard". On sporting rifles this type of guard has a threaded lug and is screwed onto the trigger plate.
 A lot of the Hawken features are based or inspired (copied) from English Sporting Rifles.
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Offline Levy

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Re: Trigger Guard ID
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2017, 05:37:00 PM »
I have a guard like that on a small gauge English single barrel shotgun (backaction perc.) that has "imported by S. N. Hart Norfolk, Va." on the barrel.  James Levy
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Re: Trigger Guard ID
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2017, 08:47:02 PM »
Old would have been forged wrought iron, then filed smooth.
You might see slag inclusions but NO holes made by bubbles.

New would be case, most likely investment. Look for any remnants of a parting line from the wax pattern.
Unlikely to be air holes, but maybe.
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Fiftyfour

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Re: Trigger Guard ID
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2017, 09:52:32 PM »
Originally I had thought of using this on a rifle.  I have the TOW English Fowler plan/pattern and was thinking about a colrain octogon to round barrel
Cut to 30 inches and a Davis trade gun lock.  I welcome any feed back on that idea.
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Re: Trigger Guard ID
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2017, 10:24:39 PM »

 I would use this lock from Davis. It matches the time period of the guard.
http://www.redaviscompany.com/0269.html

 The gun can be built like a simple export grade or finer if you prefer.
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Offline rich pierce

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Re: Trigger Guard ID
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2017, 10:37:02 PM »
I think you should sell the guard to me and let me buy you a nice new one of your choice.
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Fiftyfour

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Re: Trigger Guard ID
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2017, 11:59:37 PM »
Rich
I sent a reply to your PM, did you receive it? Im new to posting to this site so I'm still learning how the functions work.
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Re: Trigger Guard ID
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2017, 02:12:12 AM »
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