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Stanley 271 Router Plane for inletting
« on: November 23, 2017, 10:02:04 PM »
Does anyone use a small router plane like a 271 for inletting?

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Re: Stanley 271 Router Plane for inletting
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2017, 10:14:44 PM »
i had to look up one of these- interesting tool.  No, I dont use anything other than gouges, chisles and scrappers to inlet.
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Re: Stanley 271 Router Plane for inletting
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2017, 10:55:28 PM »
neat little tool, i have one and over the years have used every now and then. you can modify the cutter or make a different shaped one.
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Re: Stanley 271 Router Plane for inletting
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2017, 03:18:57 AM »
I use my Stanley 45 and 55 for inletting the barrel channel into a blank. In my opinion there’s really no better tools for that. I’m sure the router planes would work well for certain tasks. If your going to be buying Stanley planes, the older the better.
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Re: Stanley 271 Router Plane for inletting
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2017, 03:57:55 AM »
A plane with the same or greater functionality/use can be very easily made from a piece of wood and a piece of steel ground/filed to shape. A fence can be screwed or clamped on it to do RR channels or to clean up the edge/bottom of a barrel channel.  I made one years ago to cut a channel for a 3/8 rod. Used an old drill bit for a cutter, the same drill that made the tool holding hole.

While you are it make a couple round rasps out of threaded rod. Bob Roller describes them on here somewhere.

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Re: Stanley 271 Router Plane for inletting
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2017, 05:46:46 AM »
I use a 271 for inletting the lock and side plates.

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Re: Stanley 271 Router Plane for inletting
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2017, 06:28:39 AM »
The Stanley rest on the shelf in the living room, but the 4 homemade versions of router planes are in the shop. 

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Re: Stanley 271 Router Plane for inletting
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2017, 06:52:24 AM »
I have a Stanley 271 but never thought about using it for inletting gun stocks.   I will have to give it a try sometime.   I can see where it might help with locks and sideplates.     I did use a Montgomery Ward #45 when I started out, for cutting the barrel channel and ramrod groove.   Then I either bought or made traditional wood planes for those purposes.    I have a period gunstocking plane that I use for roughing out the barrel channel.   I made a little plane, actually two, for cutting the ramrod groove.   The initial groove is cut with gouges, though.   

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Re: Stanley 271 Router Plane for inletting
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2017, 08:21:55 AM »
\I WAS  one of the lucky ones that got a  sand casting lesson from Dave Rase years ago now but they were just finishing up a rifle builiding class  and they had them casting their butt plates and triggerguards in brass. on of the students had a router plane made by his father who was a tool and die maker. they cast six of thes little guys and \i use mine on every gun i made since the thing was cast. the lock mortice is first and pireced side plates is second. \i used allen keys for the cutters of various sizes.
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Re: Stanley 271 Router Plane for inletting
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2017, 04:40:52 PM »
Now I want one. Is a full size route plane mostly good for barrel inlets?  I see a Cowryman router plane that is affordable.
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Re: Stanley 271 Router Plane for inletting
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2017, 04:51:08 PM »
 Here is a link to Pix, if you haven't seen one.

  https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=stanley+271&qpvt=Stanley+271&FORM=IGRE

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Re: Stanley 271 Router Plane for inletting
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2017, 05:27:56 PM »
I use a wooden router plane to Inlet barrels.  It works well but I find that the channel needs to be started with chisels.  So I may not be saving myself that much time.

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Re: Stanley 271 Router Plane for inletting
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2017, 05:49:55 PM »
Here is a link to Pix, if you haven't seen one.

  https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=stanley+271&qpvt=Stanley+271&FORM=IGRE

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Mighty cute. I can see nice flat lock and sideplate inlets in my future. Maybe even patchbox cavities.
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Re: Stanley 271 Router Plane for inletting
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2017, 06:36:52 PM »
I have a Stanley 71 I use to hog out part of barrels channels from time to time, and a home-made wooden router plane about the size of the 271 that I have used on tangs and lock inlets.  Paid 10 bucks for the Stanley 71 in the original box with the owner's manual.

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Re: Stanley 271 Router Plane for inletting
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2017, 06:42:08 PM »
I've got an old wood plane that I reshaped to use for barrel channels.  It's OK for finish work, but not for the actual inletting.  Chisels and gouges work better for me, along with a rasp and file.
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Re: Stanley 271 Router Plane for inletting
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2017, 06:56:01 PM »
New high quality plane irons can be made for your old plane by Hock tool in Ft. Bragg Calif. visit their website. They make great stuff, from the best quality materials. Cheap? Not so much. Great people to talk to, they really love high quality hand tools.

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Re: Stanley 271 Router Plane for inletting
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2017, 08:08:59 PM »
Back in the 70's I tried a router for inletting a lock.

It was difficult to get the plastic bedding compound the same colour

and grain structure as the surrounding wood that survived
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Re: Stanley 271 Router Plane for inletting
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2017, 08:55:28 PM »
Daryl, we are discussing cute little hand tools. But I imagine there was a blue cloud of cuss words up North when that happened.
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Re: Stanley 271 Router Plane for inletting
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2017, 09:10:36 PM »
I have tried a hand router and it worked, after a fashion, but I didn't find it significantly faster than employing chisels and a scorp for the job.

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Re: Stanley 271 Router Plane for inletting
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2017, 10:31:19 PM »
I thought about a carriage plane like this one.  I even went so far as to make one.  The results were less than stellar.

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Re: Stanley 271 Router Plane for inletting
« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2017, 07:05:32 PM »
I have the Stanley 271 and I bought a Lee Valley miniature router plane for tight work and I love them both. You need to sharpen the Nag's Tooth blade to a keen edge and keep your depth of cut small for best results.
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Re: Stanley 271 Router Plane for inletting
« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2017, 08:28:08 PM »
Here is the shots of the small router plane I cast at The Washington Gunmakers Fair With Dave Rase & Mike Keller.










the side plate inlet was so much easier using the router plane
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Re: Stanley 271 Router Plane for inletting
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2017, 08:28:05 PM »
So cute and handy -- NICE :)
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