Recognize lock

[Maineshops]

Anyone recognize this lock?

[Mike Brooks]

probably an English export of some type, maybe Belgian.

[Cades Cove Fiddler]

  ... I have a Tennessee made caplock rifle  with a similar JoS Golcher made lock ... late period percussion ...

[Bob Roller]

Many years ago I made 3 or 4 like this.They were copied from
an antique marked "Davidson Cincinnati."Not good quality
but usable.The ones I made had a much better mechanism.

Bob Roller

[Chris Evrard]

... I have a Tennessee made caplock rifle  with a similar JoS Golcher made lock ... late period percussion ...

Funny, I was going to say Golcher too. I have a Lancaster rifle made by H. Gibbs that has a similar late percussion lock.

[Maineshops]

Thanks for the input. This lock is on a rifle that was restocked with another stock. Barrel pin holes relocated etc. I’ll post a pic later. That may help some. The breach plug is corroded however the bore can be refreshed I think from reading some posts. The

[T*O*F]

Judging from the engraving on the plate, I would say it was originally on a fowler/shotgun denoting it's purpose.  One seldom finds birds engraved on a rifle.

[Seth Isaacson]

Judging from the engraving on the plate, I would say it was originally on a fowler/shotgun denoting it's purpose.  One seldom finds birds engraved on a rifle.

In my experience that hasn't been the case. While bird engraving makes most sense on a fowling gun*, a lot of the "hardware trade" locks by the Goulcher/Golchers have generic bird engraving, and these locks are found on all sorts of firearms, including a lot of 19th century rifles. Just google "Golcher lock" and you'll get plenty of examples.

[Maineshops]

Here is a pic of some of the rest of the rifle that may help. All or some of the parts were put on a repurposed stock. Lots of putty. Finish is early Hershey bar and brick w copious amounts of varnish.
  Unless barrels were coned at the muzzle this old girl is badly warn a couple of inches. Cal seems to be about 40 .  Breach plug td is about .490/12 p a. Dan

[rich pierce]

These sorts of locks were made here and also boldly copied abroad and sold here by the bucketful. About all they can tell us is the earliest date a gun could have been made, anywhere from Massachusetts to California, Michigan to Texas.

[flinchrocket]

I really like that patchbox. How does that release work? Push the button to the rear? I can see a steel one of those coming!

[Maineshops]

Patch box latch seems to be mucked up. I’ll take it apart and send pics so you can copy it. Dan

[Maineshops]

Here is the latch pretty simple it seams. Little leaf spring arrangement a little wood interference I keeping it from working properly. Looks like it was inletted with an ax. Dan

[flinchrocket]

Interesting,I like the hidden hinge. Thanks for the pictures.

[Maineshops]

Material is .090 brass sheet and the hinge and latch is soft soldered on.