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Offline mark brier

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Rear sight forging dies
« on: December 19, 2017, 03:17:14 AM »
Gentleman I thought you may enjoy pictures of my forging die for the rear sight. Sorry for the poor pictures, they really don't show the angles inside the die. Just imagine your rear sight upside down. The last picture shows a sight filed and finished from the die.
Mark Brier








Offline webradbury

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Re: Rear sight forging dies
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2017, 03:38:07 AM »
Very nice
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Re: Rear sight forging dies
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2017, 04:17:38 AM »
Hi,
I really like the end result,  but I don't see how the forging die was able to do such a fine result.
Please pardon my hard head, but wish I could understand how it was done.
I do understand how heated forging is done, but I am missing this one ::) :-[
Fred
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Re: Rear sight forging dies
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2017, 04:41:47 AM »
Forge the rough sight, file to finish...

Offline mark brier

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Re: Rear sight forging dies
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2017, 05:00:14 AM »
Fred, as with most everything in this hobby the file work is what makes the end result. The die just saves time and energy, and forms the body of the sight. As with forgings and dies it is oversized. Take a rectangular wrought bar and and put about 3/8" of the end of the bar on the edge of the anvil and hammer down making it thinner which will also spread its width, then take another heat and hammer it 90 degrees. This forms the the back of the sight which you see when sighting down the barrel. Next put the die in the hardy hole. Take another heat and the portion of the metal you bent at a 90 goes into the deepest cut part of the die. At a bright yellow heat drive the bar into the die, stopping just short of hammering on the die body itself. This forms about 95% of the sight body. Finally take one more heat and use the flatter to finishing setting the piece into the die. When the flatter comes against the die body this will become dead flat and is your base of the dovetail. The dovetails are also cut into the die and therefore are already forged in. Remember that you are forging the sight upside down. The recess where we cut the sight notch itself is cut with a ball mill. This forging with practice is done in 3 heats, total time elapsed about 10 minutes start to finish. Cut the sight blank off the remainder of the bar and about 30-40 minutes of filing and your done.
Mark Brier

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Re: Rear sight forging dies
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2017, 05:05:12 AM »
Neat tool thanks for sharing.
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Re: Rear sight forging dies
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2017, 06:26:37 AM »
Mark,

What kind and size of material blank are you driving into your die?
Very nice finished sight!

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Re: Rear sight forging dies
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2017, 03:33:32 PM »
GOTTA make me one!
Your sight is one of a kind and as an individual makes one, it becomes a signature in it's self.
As my niece would say...........AWESOME!
Thank you for the post.
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Re: Rear sight forging dies
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2017, 07:17:44 PM »
I never thought about doing it that way, but it makes perfect sense.
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Re: Rear sight forging dies
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2017, 07:55:20 AM »
That's awesome!  How do you go about making a die such as that?

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Re: Rear sight forging dies
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2017, 03:03:07 PM »
Angus, typically I use just wrought iron and start with 3/8" square

Curtis, the rear fence portion of the die was cut with a 1/4" end mill and the rest of the sight contours were cut by hand using a dremel too and burrs

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Re: Rear sight forging dies
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2017, 05:08:44 PM »
A true craftsman! Nice info, thanks - beautiful sight!
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Re: Rear sight forging dies
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2017, 03:50:11 PM »
love seeing your work, thanks
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Re: Rear sight forging dies
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2017, 06:24:42 AM »
Thanks fore the info Mark.

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