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Offline Bigmon

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substitute for Brownells' Acra Glass...??
« on: March 08, 2018, 12:10:01 AM »
I know most don't approve of using but I do allot of repairs and have always had this on hand.  Problem is I just bought a new kit at $30+ and opened it and it is dried up and grainy.  I called them and they told me to warm in a microwave.
I tried that and now it is weak and flaky when set.  Also trned green, maybe the warming??
Called again and they told me I'm just SOL, wont replace without a receipt from BROWNELLS.  But I bought it BRAND NEW from a local Mom and Pop gun store and they get from a distributor.  Believe me I tried, I am that tight,
Anyway, it just isn't in me to keep using a product that is not backed up as advertised and promised by the manufacturer especially when the box says Money Back Guarantee and shelf life 7 to 10 years.  But when I call them their tune really changes.  Just a sign of the times anymore.
Just wondering if there is anything else to use??

Offline JLBSparks

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Re: substitute for Brownells' Acra Glass...??
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2018, 02:12:53 AM »
Maybe try JB Weld.
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Re: substitute for Brownells' Acra Glass...??
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2018, 02:26:28 AM »
I do a lot of bedding with JB Weld (the steel filled stuff), nowadays - easy to use and strong enough for my major modern calibres. I used to use only Devcon Plastic Steel, until the changed it from a 50/50 mix and also dropped the steel content.

Some guys still use it. I use JB weld.
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Re: substitute for Brownells' Acra Glass...??
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2018, 03:24:48 AM »
 In my experience JB weld is fine for bedding, but isn't as strong a glue as acuglass for repairs.

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Re: substitute for Brownells' Acra Glass...??
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2018, 04:05:29 AM »
Crystalized AcraGlas can be salvaged, not with a microwave, but with hot water.  Just place the resin (the hardener is immortal) in a tub of hot water until it clarifies.  It's like honey  You probably cooked it in the MW...oops!
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Re: substitute for Brownells' Acra Glass...??
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2018, 04:15:44 AM »
Pro-bed 2000 from Muzzleloader builders supply, epoxy bedding compound.

Offline xx54

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Re: substitute for Brownells' Acra Glass...??
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2018, 04:23:09 AM »
You might try Wes Systems Epoxy. I know a few talented gunsmiths that use it.

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Re: substitute for Brownells' Acra Glass...??
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2018, 04:54:56 AM »
2nd the Wes Sys. Epoxy, Not Cheap. Was taught a long time ago about it. It is not P/C, but does away with a lot of problems ( moisture #1). Easy to work with and can be colored, filed, sanded etc.

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Re: substitute for Brownells' Acra Glass...??
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2018, 05:38:34 AM »
Here's a product that I use to build bows.  I swear it's the exact same stuff as Acra Glass gel.

Easy to use.  I keep it in the fridge and warm the cans by setting them in warm water.  Cures in 24 hours at room temperature or four or five hours at 150 to 180 degrees.

https://binghamprojects.com/store/smooth-epoxy-glue/
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Re: substitute for Brownells' Acra Glass...??
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2018, 02:28:04 PM »
Back when I built laminated bows, Smooth On epoxy was my choice for gluing. It is a very good glue. It is extremely strong, versatile, does not go bad and has a long working time. I kept mine stored in a refrigerator and it lasted for years. In addition to making bows with it, I used it for all sorts of repairs around my home and shop with great success. That was many years ago and I had forgotten about it until I read this thread. It would be a wonderful glue for bedding parts on guns. Heating makes it cure faster and its stronger. Bedding parts on guns would require the use of a very good release agent unless you want a permanent installation. I will order some today just to keep around the shop for general repairs. I could have used it this week to bed a troublesome muzzle cap I installed.

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Re: substitute for Brownells' Acra Glass...??
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2018, 05:34:30 PM »
Crystalized AcraGlas can be salvaged, not with a microwave, but with hot water.  Just place the resin (the hardener is immortal) in a tub of hot water until it clarifies.  It's like honey  You probably cooked it in the MW...oops!

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Offline conquerordie

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Re: substitute for Brownells' Acra Glass...??
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2018, 07:44:48 PM »
This just happened to me as well. Placed the containers in warm water and after about 30 minutes it was good to go.
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Re: substitute for Brownells' Acra Glass...??
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2018, 08:15:33 PM »
+++ For Smooth-On,  good stuff
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Re: substitute for Brownells' Acra Glass...??
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2018, 05:12:12 PM »
I also like Smooth On
its a good epoxy a pint can set will last a long long time just dont be lazy and use the same "scoop" in each container.
All the top Bow builders use it.

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Re: substitute for Brownells' Acra Glass...??
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2018, 09:42:55 PM »
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substitute for Brownells' Acra Glass...??
There is no substitute.....it's the best there is. 

As for the microwave, I've had a couple of kits that were at least 30 years old which I reconstituted.  The key is to nuke it in 5 second intervals so you don't cook it.....in which case it's not Brownells fault.
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