Lock repair...?

[Bigmon]

Folks,  As I have stated on here every time I post "THANKS" for all the advice.  And I mean it, I sincerely appreciate all of the knowledge that is shared on this web site.
Sometimes I think I spend toooo much time reading and often posting on here what to some might seem trivial subjects.
And if so, I apologize for boring anyone it might offend.
And while I do not like paying more than needed, ie: the going rate for stuff, please note I never used the word cheap.  I do not expect anyone to commit their talent, experience or time for an unfair compensation.
I do not work for free and do not expect anyone else to.
I learned along time ago that one only gets what they pay for, and even then not always.  That's all I am looking for.
And as always, thanks to all for the input.

[Hungry Horse]

If it is a standard sized Bess lock, maybe the cheapest way out would be to buy a good quality replacement. Or a good used one that you could get parts from.

  Hungry Horse

[Bigmon]

It is not as large as a Bess lock, but good idea.  Maybe the internals would be the same.  But I think this lock originated from North Star West.  Where they got the parts I do not know.
I sent the lock to an acquaintance of mine that has experience with these problems.  I am confidant I will be well satisfied.
Thanks so much to all.

[Daryl]

I have a problem with, "it may not be cheap".  If Bigmon can't do it himself, he has to have someone else with the skill, courage, etc. to do it.  No matter what it costs, it will correct the issue.  The other option is to do nothing so the gun is useless.  How much is that worth?  Would it be cheaper to have it fixed or throw it out?  Whatever it costs is a good deal!!  I'm sick of people looking for cheap.  I guess you found my trigger.

I tell these folks that think anything for a muzzle loader must be
cheap is "If you want Cheeeep,get a carton of baby chickens and
you'll have Cheeeep all day long".In this area where we live, I
know of ONE gunsmith who is mostly a modern gun man and he
can't be reached by phone.

Bob Roller

About those chickens - i tried to grow them, they just die on me. Don't know why - I'm either planting them too deep or too close together.

[D. Taylor Sapergia]

Marcruger:  Thank you for your reply to my rant.  I've been following my heart in spite of the poverty associated with it, for a long time, and I couldn't be happier about my lot.  But when someone tells me I am charging too much, or would I just absorb the taxes, etc., my blood boils.  My neighbour across the street borrows my specialty tools from time to time, and told me once he wished he had a shop full of tools like mine.  I pointed out to him that selling one of his vehicles, or one of his quads, or one of his snow sleds, or his 40 foot travel trailer he could probably afford a good start on a nice shop.  Don't sweat it Marc.

[jerrywh]

 Taylor,
    I have a friend that always says he wish he had a shop like mine.  He has two $50,000.00 pickup truck, One for him and one for his wife.
 They gamble at the casino about twice a month.  I drive a 71 ford PU. Go figure!!!   

[Clint]

I would consider simply getting a replacement tumbler and flintcock. I don't know the specific lock that you have, but I would try Track's Grice lock parts or call The Rifle Shoppe and ask them if they have correct parts. If you can get a close match and file fit you will have a permanent fix. Don't be afraid to do it yourself, you can do it. I have taught dozens of people blacksmithing who were all thumbs and couldn't build any thing. Turns out they just never tried.

[Hungry Horse]

I think the lock you are looking for is the trade gun lock that was manufactured to replace the old Lott trade gun locks. I think it was made made by Davis. It also is the same size as the trade gun locks made by Curly for North Star.

  Hungry Horse

[Bigmon]

I guess I should have posted earlier.
I was contacted by an old aquaintance from the past regarding this lock.  I sent it to him as he had the correct welder and tools, but most of all he had the knowledge to diagnose the problem(s) and the skill to use the tools.  It is fixed and no sign of the problem or the repair.
Again, thanks to all for the advice.

[Goo]

You only need to increase the height of the shoulder on the tumbler shaft. A short T  shoulder bushing that will ride on the low low shoulder of the tumbler shaft and have a larger surface area which will extend to a larger surface area on the underside of the cock should solve the problem.

[Bigmon]

I believe the biggest problem was that the underside of the square hole in the hammer was too large around the edge allowing the hammer to slide past the shoulder on the tumbler until it actually contacted the lock plate. Once he built up the hammer that solved most of the problem.  Thanks ya'all

[jerrywh]

 Taylor. I'm with you. I'm sick of people looking for cheap. No reflection on the original poster here.  Davec2 does things I never even heard of.  Now I have to look up torsion welding.