Author Topic: Flintlock rifle.  (Read 10515 times)

Offline David Price

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 703
    • The Flintlock Shop
Re: Flintlock rifle.
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2018, 05:11:55 PM »
Adrie,
Plesase post the video pictures that you e mailed me of the lock sparking with your hand cut flints.  I am sure all ther ALR will enjoy seeing them.  Adrie picked up a flint rock  that he found in some one's garden, chipped a piece for his hand made miniature lock and it worked perfectly.

David Price

Offline Craig Wilcox

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2532
Re: Flintlock rifle.
« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2018, 02:14:27 AM »
We need to start making some 40% size clay pigeons for Adre.  And maybe some #14 or so birdshot.

 I am amazed at his ability to make a working replica this size - and all the metal work so beautifully done.
Craig Wilcox
We are all elated when Dame Fortune smiles at us, but remember that she is always closely followed by her daughter, Miss Fortune.

Offline stubshaft

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 365
Re: Flintlock rifle.
« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2018, 02:21:46 AM »
Great work!!! 
I'd rather die standing, than live on my knees...

Offline Adrie luke

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 359
Re: Flintlock rifle.
« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2018, 10:22:07 AM »
I am glad you like the locks!
Here are pictures of the brass work.
Yesterday I found a nice piece of stock.
I hope the grain of the wood is what I have in mind.












Offline Bob Roller

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 9694
Re: Flintlock rifle.
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2018, 04:04:35 PM »
Those little locks are beautiful.I have made perhaps 3 very small locks
in my 50 years of lock work and I won't do any more of them.
Keep up the good work and we all enjoy your postings.

Bob Roller

Iktomi

  • Guest
Re: Flintlock rifle.
« Reply #30 on: May 06, 2018, 05:32:49 PM »
Amazing...

Offline P.W.Berkuta

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2215
Re: Flintlock rifle.
« Reply #31 on: May 06, 2018, 07:58:09 PM »
Did you cast the cock and lock plate? They look cast to my eye? Great work Adrie ;). You have a LOT of talent - what do you do for a living?
"The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person who is doing it." - Chinese proverb

Offline Adrie luke

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 359
Re: Flintlock rifle.
« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2018, 01:18:48 AM »
Bob Roller,

From somebody who has 50 years of experience in lock work,
This is a very big compliment. Thanks!

Offline Adrie luke

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 359
Re: Flintlock rifle.
« Reply #33 on: June 01, 2018, 06:50:13 PM »
I am busy with the walnut stock. The walnut is not my best friend, it splinters very easy.










For distraction I have made a powder horn. I know this is not the site for it, but I will show it.
The powder horn is on full scale. This time I would know how it feels in the full scale world!






Offline stubshaft

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 365
Re: Flintlock rifle.
« Reply #34 on: June 01, 2018, 07:34:27 PM »
You do great work!  Always a joy to see what surprises you come up with.
I'd rather die standing, than live on my knees...

fjohnson

  • Guest
Re: Flintlock rifle.
« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2018, 05:59:35 AM »
you were born in the wrong time and wrong place.   you should be building full size rifles     awsome work---keep it up

Offline Chowmi

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 843
Re: Flintlock rifle.
« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2018, 06:07:56 AM »
Adrie,
Beautiful work on the gun and the powder horn!

Your skills always amaze me. That powderhorn is fantastic.

I will be in Amsterdam in June. I will send you a Personal message.

All the best to you and Gonny,

Norm.
Cheers,
Chowmi

NMLRA
CLA

Offline Craig Wilcox

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2532
Re: Flintlock rifle.
« Reply #37 on: June 03, 2018, 06:56:18 PM »
Adrie, I don't see any trips to the Netherlands in my future, but would truly enjoy meeting you and talking workmanship.  What you are doing making these scale firearms is really amazing.


I am sure that the Netherlands, like Great Britain and some other European countries, has limits on what you can make in the way of firearms.  Would those limitations be one of the reasons that you make scale-size weapons?


Besides your steel work, you also do fascinating brass and wood work.  And your engraving - I am very envious!


Keep up the good stuff, as we are all learning  by watching.
Craig Wilcox
We are all elated when Dame Fortune smiles at us, but remember that she is always closely followed by her daughter, Miss Fortune.

Offline Chowmi

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 843
Re: Flintlock rifle.
« Reply #38 on: June 05, 2018, 05:57:57 AM »
Adrie,
If I may offer some advice, have a look at your moulding around the lock. That moulding should be super skinny. Have a look at Dave Person’s English fowler tutorial.
If I had sent you that Kibler stock already, you would see what i mean.
On a full sized gun, the moulding surrounding the lock might be 1/8th of and inch (31Millimetres) or even less. On your 1/5th scale guns I guess that would be about 6  Millimetres.
Also note how there are no flat surfaces on Dave Persons gun, specifically from the lock mortise into the wrist.

You do great work, and I have been telling everyone here at the gunsmithing seminar in Kentucky about you. Keep it up! 

Norm.
Cheers,
Chowmi

NMLRA
CLA

Offline Chowmi

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 843
Re: Flintlock rifle.
« Reply #39 on: June 05, 2018, 06:35:52 AM »
Adrie,
I made a drawing to show my point.

It’s a terrible drawing, but still shows what I mean.
Skinny lock mortise, but maybe a bit thicker at the nose, like on Dave’s guns.

Also, the wood on the side of your tang is flat. In other words, it is straight across all the way. It should angle down. If you fix the wide lock mortise, then this will fix itself.  The wood on either side of the tang should angle down fairly sharply, in a straight line to the lock mortise.

I hope I have shown this in the drawing. The picture is from the rear of the gun, looking at the tang.

Here is my terrible drawing: 



Gonny,
I hope I have made this easy to translate! 

Cheers,
Norm.
Cheers,
Chowmi

NMLRA
CLA

Offline Adrie luke

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 359
Re: Flintlock rifle.
« Reply #40 on: June 05, 2018, 11:44:14 AM »
Hello Norm,

Thanks for your advice. I need someone who puts his finger on the right place.
On the drawing of Track and Wolff you can not see everything.
I follow the topic of Smart dog and I store the pictures I need.
I understand what you mean.



Only his barrel tang is higher because he used a moveable barrel.
I use pins for the barrel because right now I do not dare to make barrel keys.
On your drawing I see a beavertail. Is it necessary to use this?



I think this is a good example.

Adrie

Offline Chowmi

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 843
Re: Flintlock rifle.
« Reply #41 on: June 06, 2018, 02:41:17 AM »
Adrie,
I just drew the beaver tails out of habit. I don’t know enough about fowlers to give you a definite answer. I certainly think some fowlers had them, but not all of them.

I was hoping someone else would chime in with a good answer to that question.

Cheers,
Norm.
Cheers,
Chowmi

NMLRA
CLA

Offline Adrie luke

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 359
Re: Flintlock rifle.
« Reply #42 on: June 24, 2018, 07:10:55 PM »
Fowling update.

The carving is not that easy, as I told it's not my wood.
One wrong move and it splinters, but I take my time.
When the rifle is finished I will share the pictures.













Offline Ky-Flinter

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 7500
  • Born in Kentucke, just 250 years late
Re: Flintlock rifle.
« Reply #43 on: June 24, 2018, 07:59:24 PM »
.......For distraction I have made a powder horn. I know this is not the site for it, but I will show it.
The powder horn is on full scale. This time I would know how it feels in the full scale world!





Hi Adrie,

As always I enjoy seeing your wonderful work.  Since powder horns are an important part of longrifle use, they are very welcome here, and you have made a very nice one, indeed.

-Ron
Ron Winfield

Life is too short to hunt with an ugly gun. -Nate McKenzie

Offline will payne

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 349
  • AKA dead eye/ Coder /Ethical Hacker
Re: Flintlock rifle.
« Reply #44 on: June 24, 2018, 11:15:08 PM »
Are you to use those locks in a gun?
Will
🕯
Will


"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -Thomas Jefferson

Offline Adrie luke

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 359
Re: Flintlock rifle.
« Reply #45 on: June 26, 2018, 06:42:38 PM »
Barrel work
I  am satisfied with the sight.












Vulcan

  • Guest
Re: Flintlock rifle.
« Reply #46 on: June 27, 2018, 01:42:42 AM »
Simply amazing work.

Offline Chowmi

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 843
Re: Flintlock rifle.
« Reply #47 on: June 27, 2018, 03:22:34 AM »
Adrie,
that sight looks good!  I like the barrel under lugs as well. 

I think you did the tang carving after I saw the gun at your house right?  The carving is nice.  I cannot believe how you do that carving so small! 

Are you going to bore that barrel out so it is thin at the muzzle?  That would make it much lighter and it will balance well! 

Cheers,
Norm
Cheers,
Chowmi

NMLRA
CLA

Offline Chowmi

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 843
Re: Flintlock rifle.
« Reply #48 on: June 27, 2018, 07:01:22 AM »
.......For distraction I have made a powder horn. I know this is not the site for it, but I will show it.
The powder horn is on full scale. This time I would know how it feels in the full scale world!





Hi Adrie,

As always I enjoy seeing your wonderful work.  Since powder horns are an important part of longrifle use, they are very welcome here, and you have made a very nice one, indeed.

-Ron

I do not wish to hijack this thread, so I will post pictures on the "Accoutrements" page.

I visited Adrie in Amsterdam, and he presented me with this powder horn.  It is a gift that I will treasure for all my life. 
Thank you Adrie and Gonny,

Norm
Cheers,
Chowmi

NMLRA
CLA

Offline stubshaft

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 365
Re: Flintlock rifle.
« Reply #49 on: June 27, 2018, 08:16:08 PM »
Every time I visit this thread and see what he has added I am astounded by his workmanship.
I'd rather die standing, than live on my knees...