Author Topic: better ignition (Read 2130 times)

Michigan Flinter · « **on:** September 10, 2018, 12:49:07 AM »

I have an old barrel that has a new .40 cal. liner put in it .It has just a .060 hole for the touch hole and the ignition is not to good . the wall thickness is .300 . my question is what size of white lighting liner is best to use ? Thank you for staying on the subject and giving me your opinion . I appreciate it very much.

D. Taylor Sapergia · « **Reply #1 on:** September 10, 2018, 12:53:47 AM »

Depending on the breech diameter of your barrel, a 1/4" x 32 or a 5/16" x 32 Chambers' White Lightning vent will serve you well. I like the inside cavity diameter of the 5/16" liners. Your ignition will be simultaneous with trigger pull, or nearly so.

J. Talbert · « **Reply #2 on:** September 10, 2018, 01:08:20 AM »

I’ve always found the 1/4 in to be as fast as any other that I can tell, so that’s what I use as a rule.
You can always go bigger but you can’t go smaller.

Jeff

ltdann · « **Reply #3 on:** September 10, 2018, 01:14:47 AM »

I've used the 1/4 and the 5/16. The latter seems to give better performance all around.

Hungry Horse · « **Reply #4 on:** September 10, 2018, 02:24:42 AM »

I agree with Dan, I have a couple of each, and the 5/16ths seem faster, and less prone to plugging up with fowling. You have pretty much painted yourself into a corner with one of these, since the next step up, if you mess up, is to make one yourself.

Hungry Horse

t.caster · « **Reply #5 on:** September 10, 2018, 03:31:42 PM »

Eric, welcome back! What size threads does the current liner have?

Turtle · « **Reply #6 on:** September 10, 2018, 04:22:56 PM »

I can't prove it, but the biggest white lightning liner safe to install in a barrel seems to be faster.

Ky-Flinter · « **Reply #7 on:** September 10, 2018, 07:21:20 PM »

Quote from: Hungry Horse on September 10, 2018, 02:24:42 AM

I agree with Dan, I have a couple of each, and the 5/16ths seem faster, and less prone to plugging up with fowling. You have pretty much painted yourself into a corner with one of these, since the next step up, if you mess up, is to make one yourself.

Hungry Horse

Chambers also makes a 3/8" White Lightening liner for larger barrels, so there is one step up from 5/16, if your barrel has room for it.

-Ron

Michigan Flinter · « **Reply #8 on:** September 10, 2018, 09:49:48 PM »

just finished putting in a 5/16 - 32 whitelighting touchhole liner .just the right amount of sidewall so I didn't have to file any off the liner .the wall was .300 thick . know out to see if can shoot any spiders . Thanks for all your responces and staying on the subject.

Michigan Flinter · « **Reply #9 on:** September 12, 2018, 03:37:46 AM »

took my old rifle out today ( the one with a new 5/16-32 white lighting touchhole liner ) and tried to shoot some spiders with it ,came close but still need some sight adjustments, with Bobby Hoyt redoing the barrel and new touch hole liner it is going to be a good shooter. went back in the woods to see if I could get a tree rat or two ,didn't see any, but saw five nauga's first time in a long time seeing them . they sure took a hit back in the 60's and 70's with the car companies using their hides for car seats . have any of folks seen any in your neck of the woods?

Craig Wilcox · « **Reply #10 on:** September 12, 2018, 05:03:22 AM »

Ya got to love them naugas. Come in every color of the rainbow!
I think they are recovering from the '70's and '80's!

t.caster · « **Reply #11 on:** September 12, 2018, 04:42:12 PM »

You better get them naugas tested for CWD by the DNR lab!

Curt J · « **Reply #12 on:** September 17, 2018, 05:48:03 AM »

We even had some of those rare metalflake naugas in this area, but I haven't seen any since the late 1960's. Probably extinct, I suppose.

stubshaft · « **Reply #13 on:** September 17, 2018, 07:55:46 AM »

I think that the metalflake nauga's were actually undocumented nauga's that crept in.

Turtle · « **Reply #14 on:** September 17, 2018, 02:00:58 PM »

No naugas, but the annual mucket migration was spectacular this year. It's remarkable how those little furry critters just roll along and don't use their feet!
Smiling Turtle

Bob Roller · « **Reply #15 on:** September 17, 2018, 03:34:59 PM »

We had a friend in Clarksburg WV that had a Duesenberg with naugahide upholstery on
the rumble seat.The driver's seat was fine denim and burlap.NO joke,it was.

Bob Roller

Bob Roller · « **Reply #16 on:** September 17, 2018, 03:41:33 PM »

Quote from: Turtle on September 10, 2018, 04:22:56 PM

I can't prove it, but the biggest white lightning liner safe to install in a barrel seems to be faster.

The late and still missed Tom Dawson told me and others that,"You can have the finest and
fastest lock ever made by the best craftsman" and still lose its advantage at the vent.He had a
Manton 16 bore rifle and it was as fast as a caplock and I saw and shot this gun myself.
I don't know if it's still in his family or not but I hope so.

Bob Roller

Craig Wilcox · « **Reply #17 on:** September 17, 2018, 07:44:43 PM »

I tend to think that the larger size touchhole inserts would generally give a more positive ignition. That cavity allows more of the powder to be closer to the ignition hole.
I didn't know that Chambers made a 3/8" size - good stuff to know for when I build a .54 or larger rifle. I am currently using the 1/4" size on my .45 flint.
And those naugas are really fast lil critters! Thinking of using a 20-gauge on them. Or maybe I am just getting older and moving slower??

D. Taylor Sapergia · « **Reply #18 on:** September 17, 2018, 08:32:10 PM »

Selecting the vent diameter will be limited to how wide the side flat is on the barrel. I have used Chambers' 3/8 x 32 liner on a Brown Bess and a couple of trade guns. With guns such as there when the barrel wall is quite thick, the bigger liner brings the charge closer to the pan.

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