So who uses Swiss 3fff ?

[recurve]

Ok there have been post to compare goex and swiss . Who uses Swiss , and in what calibers , 2f or 3f?
Please inclued loads.

[snapper]

I use swiss 3 f in .45 and .40 cal. round ball rifles.  The .40 likes 40 grains of powder.

I use 86 grains of swiss 2 f in .45 cal bullet guns that I shoot out to 1,000 yards with bullets that are around 525 grains.   I also use 86 grains of 2 f swiss in , .53, several .54 and .73 cal. round ball rifles.

I use 1 or 1.5 swiss in shotguns.  Mostly because I have a supply of it and  have quit using 1 and 1.5 in my rifles.

It has been years since I have used Goex in my rifles.

Fleener

[OldMtnMan]

I refuse to use Swiss any more. I think the price is a ripoff. I did use it exclusively for decades. I can tell you what I used.

I used 80gr of Swiss 2F in a .54 for elk, bear, and muley's. Always in a Hawken style gun with 32" barrel. I never lost any game with this load.

I always kept my hunting to 75yds or less.

[Matt / PA]

Here are some pics of a range session with my .58 Getz barreled Allen Martin built rifle......... Amazing when you stumble on the one load that a gun REALLY wants. And that 90gr Swiss 2F group is actually 5 shots because I wanted to BE SURE
Now I just have to tweak the barrel a bit to get the POI where I want it.
These groups were shot off a bench at 50yds.

My Colerain barreled turkey fowler also shows a serious preference for Swiss 2F over anything else.  The patterns improved immensely with all other factors remaining the same against Goex powder. Why? No idea.

Conversely I have yet to find a gun that really likes Swiss 3F..... everything I've tried it in .45-54 cal has been hot, usually high, and wild even with reduced charges compared to 3F goex.

[Daryl]

Good shooting Mat.
That 90gr. load is very nice shooting indeed. Many people would be happy with the rest as well.

BTW - please advise what patch material and thickness & lube you were using?

[Matt / PA]

Thanks Daryl,
That particular sheet was all shot using 40# cotton drill cloth lubed with Hoppes 9+ cut at the muzzle
40# cotton drill has been my go to for a lot of rifles. I've actually never mic'd it but it's gotta be in the .018-.020  range and good tough stuff.

[StevenV]

Swiss 3F in my .40cal., 60grains. Depending on the barrel .395 to .403 ball, both teflon coated pillow ticking .022 thickness. I use 2F for .50 cal. hunting rifles.             
                    Steve