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Correction- H. Warner not "Werner"
« on: July 07, 2009, 03:41:31 AM »
Is anyone familiar with an old time maker named H. Werner? Can someone point me to instructions for posting photos?
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Re: H. Werner
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2009, 04:22:58 AM »
Sellers list thirteen persons (Gunmakers) by the name of Werner.None of them start with H.

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Re: H. Werner
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2009, 04:27:45 PM »
There is a Horace Warner (with an "A").Williamsport Pa. and Syracuse NY 1827-1893....Ed
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Re: H. Werner
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2009, 04:19:11 PM »
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Re: H. Warner
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2009, 12:41:17 AM »
I checked a little more closely and it is "H. Warner".
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Re: Correction- H. Warner not "Werner"
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2009, 03:56:32 PM »
There is info about H. Warner in "THE MUZZLE-LOADING CAP LOCK RIFLE" by Ned H. Roberts.
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Re: Correction- H. Warner not "Werner"
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2009, 04:06:54 AM »
Thanks, I will try to get a copy.
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Re: Correction- H. Warner not "Werner"
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2009, 07:12:28 AM »
Is anyone familiar with an old time maker named H. Werner? Can someone point me to instructions for posting photos?

If you have a Warner I would like to know what it looks like. He specialized in super accurate slug guns. Some were VERY heavy (as opposed to only 20-30 pounds) and at least one was 69 caliber.
I put the photos on Photobucket in "medium email quality" then link them to what ever site I want in this case using the little photo  icon above the typing window.
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H. Warner Rifle Photos!
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2009, 04:22:44 AM »
This is the link to some photos I took and posted this evening.  I apologize for the quality.

http://s678.photobucket.com/albums/vv150/sequatchie/?albumview=grid
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H. Warner
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2009, 04:26:39 AM »
I'd like to know a little about the rifle and maker if anyone knows.  It came from the Upper Cumberland area of Middle/East Tennessee- Fentress County to be exact.  I ordered a bore measure gauge from TOW and will let you know what caliber it is when it arrives.
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Re: H. Warner
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2009, 05:24:43 PM »
I'd like to know a little about the rifle and maker if anyone knows.  It came from the Upper Cumberland area of Middle/East Tennessee- Fentress County to be exact.  I ordered a bore measure gauge from TOW and will let you know what caliber it is when it arrives.

I am sending the link to someone.

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Re: Correction- H. Warner not "Werner"
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2009, 07:39:16 PM »
Thanks, I'm looking forward to learning more.
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Re: Correction- H. Warner not "Werner"
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2009, 06:05:17 AM »
There was an "W. H. Warner" gunmaker who lived in Kentucky. One fullstocked rifle is signed "W. H. Warner Liverpool Ky." I have never been able to find a "Liverpool" named town in Kentucky, but it may have been a small burg that disappeared, probably near Lexington, KY since there is a Liverpool Road there. While I do not want to read too much into your rifle, it does have the long, small caliber barrel of central KY guns, and straight toe and comb lines ("triangular" butt). I don't know if this is the maker, but thought I'd throw the name out there "just in case."  Shelby Gallien

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Re: Correction- H. Warner not "Werner"
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2009, 03:39:13 PM »
Fentress County, TN isn't too far away from Lexington, KY.  Thanks!
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Re: Correction- H. Warner not "Werner"
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2009, 07:16:15 AM »
I'm inclined to think that Shelby is on to something.  This rifle does not in any way resemble the work of Horace Warner, the noted target rifle maker.  I have to believe it is a completely different man. Judging by style, I'd say Kentucky might be very likely.

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Re: Correction- H. Warner not "Werner"
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2009, 04:29:44 PM »
There was an "W. H. Warner" gunmaker who lived in Kentucky. One fullstocked rifle is signed "W. H. Warner Liverpool Ky." I have never been able to find a "Liverpool" named town in Kentucky, but it may have been a small burg that disappeared, probably near Lexington, KY since there is a Liverpool Road there. While I do not want to read too much into your rifle, it does have the long, small caliber barrel of central KY guns, and straight toe and comb lines ("triangular" butt). I don't know if this is the maker, but thought I'd throw the name out there "just in case."  Shelby Gallien

This is what I have found out. Another "H. Warner" working in the Ohio/Kentucky area.
I am fairly sure that is who made this rifle.
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Re: Correction- H. Warner not "Werner"
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2009, 09:54:57 PM »
Any other info on him or photos of his work?

Thanks!
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