Pattern 1833 Manton Carbine Flintlock on Ebay

[ajcraig]

There's a nice Pattern 1833 Manton carbine flintlock listed on Ebay. I have no interest in this lock, although I do covet it (but not at that price).
I listed this here because I found the arrangement of the internal frizzen spring to be interesting, and thought others at this site might also find it of interest. Cheers, Alex

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pattern-1833-Manton-Carbine-Flintlock/202957179692?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

[OLUT]

...a bit more expensive than the one sold at Cowans recently for $353, but this lock seems to be in better shape. Note the "crown over 8" stamped inside the lock. Does anyone have a listing of the individual indicated by that stamping?.....  I'm curious as I have some mediocre Paget carbine locks with stampings crown over 5, over 7, and over 22 kicking around in my basement somewhere

[Gunnermike]

That 1833 Manton flintlock is in great condition, but is almost twice what I paid for mine!  It seems that the price has escalated some since Francis Bannerman had 700 locks listed in 1907 for $12.00 for a dozen or $1.25 each.  The photographs show off the steel frizzen facing nicely and the filing marks left when it was made.  All the locks were made by Joseph Brazier of Wolverhampton - the best gunlock maker in England.  (see "The Gun Report" vol. 51, number 9, Feb. 2006 for more information.)

These locks represent the epitome of military flintlocks, too bad the English fiddle-farted around for 5 or 6 years before adopting the 1833 carbine and promptly converted about 30 of the less than the 1000 made to the new percussion system.  It appears that of the 906 made there were about 700 of the carbines broken up for parts and sold off - government inefficiency is nothing new.
Mike