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Offline Nordnecker

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Some leatherwork questions
« on: April 14, 2020, 03:07:17 PM »
I didn't want to hijack the "Stitching Holes" thread so here goes-
My leatherworking experience consists of a few purely functional knife sheaths, a leather wrap on oar shafts and one poorly made and unfinished bag.
A few obstacles that I've tried to address are matching the awl/ needle/ thread size and making a clam to hold my work. Another issue was when I realized that all those little C shaped scars on the leather were coming from my fingernails.
Thinking about the bag I want to eventually make, I'm unsure of how to bring it all together. I want it to be lined with cloth. I have some heavy cotton ticking that I could use Or some canvas. Both are cotton. But how do I dye the bag and not get dye on the lining?
I know I could dye the leather first, then sew it all together, but what about the edges of pieces like binding or a welt that needs to be cut after assembly?
I want to use fringe around the gusset. I guess the fringe will have to be dipped in the dye in order to make a decent job of that. But that brings me to another set of questions. I hear people asking how to get a nice even color of dye onto their work. I don't want an even color. I want a range of value in the color, darker around the edges and lighter in the middle. I don't know how else to describe it. So dipping it in dye seems like the wrong approach. I have some Fiebings dye but it is alcohol and it sure does make the leather stiff. I don't want my fringe to be stiff. What do I do to fix that?
Also, If the leather has been dyed, then treated with neatsfoot oil or something to soften it, can it still be wetted with water to sew it or will the water leave stains? Do I glue the fabric to the leather after dyeing and oiling? Do you use something like shoe polish to get a range of colors on the finished bag? That's not going to work on the fringe, is it?
As you can see, I have too many concerns to even begin. Can you make sense of any of this? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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Offline P.W.Berkuta

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Re: Some leatherwork questions
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2020, 06:39:37 PM »
I am going to address only one or two of your questions as I don't have all your answers some smarter leather workers can help more than I can. I use a stitching pony some of the time depending on the project. I made mine - see photo. I can move the upright jaws to the center position and place the base between my two thighs or leave it toward the end and only place one thigh on it. It will also rotate 360 degrees around the base. I listen to the boob tube while I sew on the couch. The one on the left is a bit "overkill" so I made the one on the right to replace it - the uprights are made out of hickory about 5/16" thick.  The jaws are faced with 3/16" thick cork gasket material. As for the dye I mostly use the pro dye from Fiebings which is oil base (I think) the alcohol base stuff does leave the veg tan leather a bit stiff but Neatsfoot oil will soften up the leather and make it darker.






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Offline thecapgunkid

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Re: Some leatherwork questions
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2020, 11:02:55 PM »
Some Plonk named The Capgun Kid wrote a bunch of posts entitled Everyman a Cobbler.  It'd be a good idea to go find them and read through them.

While you're at it, search the heck out of this section and read through what the better bag makers say.

If you haven't already, bang around YouTube and the Web for a  bag you want to emulate with whatever searches you can come up with.

Then there's Madison Grant's book.

Going forward, please post a pic of the leather and cloth you are going to use

There's a lot of blokes who will help you every step of the way, but you have a boatload of questions here that are hard to answer all at once.

We'll all be ready to try to help and almost every question you ask will get pounced.

Good luck and have fun with this.

Offline Nordnecker

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Re: Some leatherwork questions
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2020, 02:25:03 PM »
Thanks to you both for your response.
Capgun- I have read your threads many times. In fact, your pics of clamps is what inspired me to make mine.

I got a PM from another member that I'm going to follow up on.

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Offline dogcatcher

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Re: Some leatherwork questions
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2020, 12:52:55 AM »
Do you buy your leather and supplies locally or Online?  If locally, and I would never buy leather without seeing it in person, ask the sales people. 

The shop we had here, they had more answers than I could have questions.  One was a saddle maker the other all around leather worker, whne they retired I lost 2 good friends and mentors.  Now I drive 177 miles for what I need, but I know what I am getting.