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Offline smallpatch

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Re: Let’s See Your Muzzle Work
« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2020, 05:12:18 PM »
Allen just explained that. Barrel is coned, and all the work is done on the coned area, therefore, not effecting the rifling!
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Re: Let’s See Your Muzzle Work
« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2020, 06:57:49 PM »
I was concerned that I might ruin the accuracy of this fine rifle too.  But I was convinced that if I did the filing as precisely as I could, I'd be ok.  And I was.  The rifle did not lose anything in accuracy, and is much easier to start a patched ball.
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Re: Let’s See Your Muzzle Work
« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2020, 07:50:28 PM »
I will note here, that Taylor's muzzle crown is not coned.
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Re: Let’s See Your Muzzle Work
« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2020, 09:15:25 PM »
''Allen just explained that. Barrel is coned, and all the work is done on the cone."

Not convinced, Dave. It seems that if the work was done asymmetrically there be more gas blow by on one side of the ball than the other, blowing it off course.

"I was concerned that I might ruin the accuracy of this fine rifle too.  But I was convinced that if I did the filing as precisely as I could, I'd be ok.  And I was."

Taylor, I have seen many photos of your work and I have no doubt that are capable of much more precise file work than I am.

"The rifle did not lose anything in accuracy, and is much easier to start a patched ball."

Haven't thought of this. If I can use a tighter patch/ball combo, that may make up for any loss of accuracy (if any) as a result of inept filing.

I need to give this some more thought.

Thanks guys

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Re: Let’s See Your Muzzle Work
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2020, 11:40:29 PM »
I have done quite a few of them over the years.  I don't have pictures of all to them but here are a few.

This first rifle is my own I call it my Stealth Rifle because it is so black, nothing shines on it

This muzzle was coned with Joe Woods conning tool.  I then decorated the very end.  The target is one I shot with it after the coning and decorating.  As you can see it didn't hurt the accuracy .
The other pictures are rifles that were done by me and none of the accuracy was lost.


























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Re: Let’s See Your Muzzle Work
« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2020, 12:19:05 AM »
I have always wanted to do something like that, but I am afraid it would affect accuracy. Can anyone convince me it won't?

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Re: Let’s See Your Muzzle Work
« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2020, 03:56:38 AM »


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Re: Let’s See Your Muzzle Work
« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2020, 03:58:11 AM »


My log rifle

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Re: Let’s See Your Muzzle Work
« Reply #33 on: May 07, 2020, 04:36:28 AM »
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It all depends on who does the work. 

That really is the answer, isn't it? Not sure if I want to risk screwing up a barrel to find out if I am good enough.

Another thought - has anyone seen American pistols with similarly decorated muzzles?

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Re: Let’s See Your Muzzle Work
« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2020, 05:25:10 AM »


My log rifle
Now I like that.  Simple but eye catching.
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Offline Mike Lyons

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Re: Let’s See Your Muzzle Work
« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2020, 07:10:37 AM »
After a pic of Taylor’s muzzle posted on Ezras thread here on ‘Gun Building’, and after receiving my new Allen Martin with some great muzzle treatment, I thought about doing some muzzle work on a few of my other rifles. I’ve done dots and rings and whatnot but never anything else. Let’s get a thread together of some great looking muzzles for future reference. I’ll start with my new Allen Martin John Newcomer inspired Early Lancaster Schimmel Muzzle...




How do you do that? (I'm new) Is there a resource on the forum that explains that kind of work? Looks great!
All you need is a round or half round file and a triangle needle file.  Some patience helps as well.  That muzzle treatment on Bob's new rifle is the famous Don Getz "Hiney pattern".
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David,

Will that work on my smoothbore? :o

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Re: Let’s See Your Muzzle Work
« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2020, 07:17:00 AM »


My log rifle
Now I like that.  Simple but eye catching.
David
Dave, it keeps evil spirits out of the barrel and helps to promote the positive flow of sacajwea coins...

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Re: Let’s See Your Muzzle Work
« Reply #37 on: May 07, 2020, 04:10:26 PM »
None of my Mlers have muzzle ornamentation ….when looking at a gun, I never notice   the muzzle face......including when loading.  Also.....when the PRB is  just leaving  the bore, any irregularities that the patch encounters allows gas to escape in an erratic  leakage. Emgraving , etc. on the muzzle face is OK, but  anything other than an accurately done chamfer, doesn't do the accuracy any good.

MLer bench shooters used a false muzzle to prevent wear /damage to the pristine , sharp end of the bore....Fred