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Offline eggwelder

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Restoring hammer cup
« on: March 14, 2020, 04:30:23 AM »
have an original 1863 Remington .58 rifle. Looks brand new. Almost. It was dry fired a lot
Inside the hammer cup, a “firing pin” has formed where the hammer struck the nipple.
Would one be able to have a tig welder fill that back in? I would then smooth it out if required inside.

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Re: Restoring hammer cup
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2020, 04:45:06 AM »
Yes, as far as I know.
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Offline rich pierce

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Re: Restoring hammer cup
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2020, 07:13:51 AM »
Anyone who welds eggs could surely do it.  ;D
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Re: Restoring hammer cup
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2020, 04:51:19 AM »
Got it out shooting this past Saturday, had several different sized projectiles to use. First shot Off hand  at 50 yds was in the 9 ring.
I didn`t work up any loads, 60 gr 3F with crisco for lube. There was no attempt at grouping, just blasted of about 20-25 shots.
One thing- I neglected to ensure the tang bolt was completely snugged down, and i lost a small chip directly behind the tang......i didn`t even notice till i was disassembling for cleaning.

On the builders note- i have not yet filled the divot in the hammer face.

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Re: Restoring hammer cup
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2020, 04:59:09 AM »
It might be harder on the new nipple, until the cup has a flattened surface for the nipple strike.
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"a gun without hammers is like a spaniel without ears" King George V

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Re: Restoring hammer cup
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2020, 05:03:32 AM »
Agreed. It is next on the list for that rifle

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Re: Restoring hammer cup
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2020, 11:17:13 PM »
Don't think I'd worry about filling it in.  Maybe an end Mill to dress it back flush, and just shoot it.
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Re: Restoring hammer cup
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2020, 01:37:44 AM »
Smallpatch makes a really good point for both solutions. As a retired welder/fabricator/instrument maker it is very definitely weldable with tig. Either solution will still require an appropriate sized end mill.

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Re: Restoring hammer cup
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2020, 02:33:32 AM »
I have an end mill that will work, and it will need the rust up in the cup to be cleaned out before it get filled with weld. I`ll probably test it to see if it works after i smooth it out before i get any welding in it. I don`t know any pro tig welders, and i only mig, which i am actually pretty good at.

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Re: Restoring hammer cup
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2020, 02:54:08 AM »
Not but to things a good welder can’t weld.  A broken heart, a the crack of dawn !
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Re: Restoring hammer cup
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2020, 01:28:07 AM »
Not but to things a good welder can’t weld.  A broken heart, a the crack of dawn !

You knew Dawn too eh?
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Re: Restoring hammer cup
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2020, 01:08:39 AM »
This is one of the easy jobs in reconstruction of a lock. Did many.All it takes is a good welder and a boring tool , made or brought. You must anneal the hammer after welding and before boring. Seems to me that people are getting of topic here.

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Re: Restoring hammer cup
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2020, 05:09:48 AM »
Another thought is to flatten out the inside of the cup and soft solder a a piece of steel inside the cup. This can all be done without damaging the cock.