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Offline Bill Wilde

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Ball and patch size suggestions for a 60 caliber rifle??
« on: May 20, 2020, 03:11:34 AM »
I am after suggestions for ball size for a 60 caliber rifle using a "ticking" sized patch. Thanks all!!!

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Re: Ball and patch size suggestions for a 60 caliber rifle??
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2020, 03:47:32 AM »
Depends on the depth of the rifling.  I use a .595 and a .023 canvas patch in my .60.
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Re: Ball and patch size suggestions for a 60 caliber rifle??
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2020, 12:51:28 AM »
I would also say a .595" ball of pure lead and as thick a Ticking as you can find.
I have seen ticking as thick as .022", but the store called it Denim. It was not denim
as the weave was different.
Denim in various thicknesses is easier to find. Joanne's Fabrics sells it in oz. weights.
8 ounce is about .018". 10oz. usually runs to .0225", 11 oz. should be .025", 12oz. will run .030" & 14oz. will be .034"- all USUALLY.
These measurements are all compressed in my dial calipers as tightly as I can squeeze the tines together, forefinger and thumb, across the weave.
I have 3 sets of calipers and each gives a different reading, with the one above, being in the middle (they measure .001" apart).
I measure Oxyoke ticking patches as being .015" for their 18 thou. and .016/.017" for their .020 thou., so if using OxYoke store-bought patches, their .022" might
work OK.
a word about muzzle crowns to be able to load snug combinations that do not require wiping the bore at any time while shooting long strings.

Use emery or wet/dry paper in 320 grit. This is strechman's muzzle (.62)

1st picture is the factory machine-cut muzzle with corners that cut patches.



2nd picture is the same muzzle after a couple minutes of "work".



Turn the barrel 180 degrees every 20 seconds or so or rotating the abrasive cloth or paper in the muzzle, or even more often 90 degrees.
Turning the barrel/rifle, will ensure an even muzzle crown.


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Offline Bill Wilde

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Re: Ball and patch size suggestions for a 60 caliber rifle??
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2020, 01:26:01 AM »
Thank you gentlemen. Its off to the range!

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Re: Ball and patch size suggestions for a 60 caliber rifle??
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2020, 11:23:13 PM »
My Jager has a .60 cal Getz round grooved barrel at 31" long.  It likes a .595" pure lead ball, .022" patching and 85 gr. FFg GOEX.  Patches are dripping wet with anything, ie: spit, neatsfoot oil, mink oil, etc.
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Offline Keith Zimmerman

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Re: Ball and patch size suggestions for a 60 caliber rifle??
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2020, 04:55:00 PM »
I have a .60 cal Jaeger c 1700 gonna be done this week.  I always enjoy working up loads.  Bobby Hoyt gave me some balls he shoots out of his .60. I will start with those and a .010 patch and work from there.  I think Bobby said his are .586 balls.  If It works, I will borrow his Tanner mould until I order one.

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Re: Ball and patch size suggestions for a 60 caliber rifle??
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2020, 06:58:47 PM »
Keith,
Forget the .010” patches.  Start somewhere around .020 or more.
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Re: Ball and patch size suggestions for a 60 caliber rifle??
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2020, 07:51:45 PM »
Agreed, those thin patches might not even fill the groves much less the groves and windage in the bore.

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Re: Ball and patch size suggestions for a 60 caliber rifle??
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2020, 09:09:53 PM »
At a minimum, you will need .020" patches just to get to the bottom of the grooves with a .586" ball, but with zero compression,
the barrel will likely foul badly.
In a .60, a more normal ball dia. would be .595" AND you would use a .020" to .022" patch.
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Re: Ball and patch size suggestions for a 60 caliber rifle??
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2020, 02:00:09 AM »
Yup...agree with my bro.

But I think the op might be asking for diameter of pre-cut patches rather than thickness.  I believe I use patches at 1 1/4" to 1 3/8" in my .60 cal Getz barrel.  and .020" to .022" thick, you bet.
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