Author Topic: Every Man a Cobbler; The Bouncer and Center/Side Seam Knife Sheath  (Read 2115 times)

Offline thecapgunkid

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A Bouncer is a rubbing  tool that is used to burnish or tighten the fibers of finished leather. A center seam sheath is one where the seam runs down the middle of the sheath rather than along the edge of the blade it houses.   I never really used a bouncer  until I started making saddles.  Have used one ever since.  It has to have some weight to it and be perfectly smooth.  So far, my favorite is, of all things, an old ceramic door knob.  A glass tumbler with a smooth corner will also do .   In the pic, the piece between the two is really a burnisher designed to edge shoe soles, but it will do when flattening or burnishing small areas/

I don’t know the HC which and why of the center seam sheath, but keeping the knife edge off the seam and the look of the thing has a lot of appeal for me.  So, we’ll make one here. 

Start with a normal pattern where there is a small ear at the top of the fold.   That’ll be used to hang or fasten the sheath wherever you want it.  I run the seam about a third of the way up the handle and add a small bulge for it.  This guy is going to clothe a small patch knife that I’ll probably flip at Dixons with one of my belt bags.
Gauge your leather around the size of the knife.  You can get away with anywhere from 4-5 ounce cow for a patch knife to 7-8 ounce cow for a belt knife, depending on the size of your piece.  Anything thicker that 7-8 ounce gets hard to work with unless, of course, you need one of them Bowies.

If you are gonna cut the leather dry, I recommend using a hook knife.  If wet, then your clicking or round knife has an easier time.  Leave some extra leather at the edge.   That’ll get trimmed once the seam is closed, and that is an important part of the center seam sheath.  I won’t dink around with this, so I close the seam with my Singer Patcher rather than hand stitch it.
Soak for about thirty seconds, let it dry for about a minute.


If need be trim the edge as close to the seam as you dare.  You better have a sharp knife.



Poke a dowel down the sheath as far as you can without stretching any leather.  This will open the sheath up.  With just your fingers and no other tools  squeeze the sheath so that  the seam is positioned  to the middle of the face of the sheath rather than along the blades edge.  Flatten it.  Maybe a couple of light shots with your hammer or pressure from your bouncer.  Note how that ear goes from the edge to the middle of the back of the top.  I use a steel block under the project, and rub the seam with the bouncer until the whole sheath flattens. 



Now slowly and carefully put the blade into the sheath until it sits where you want it. Work it, flatten some more, bend the tip, work it some more. Flatten, bend, work…flatten, bend, work…Down by the tip, you can bend the pliant leather to curve with the tip of the blade as you insert it.   Rub again with a lot of patience and a good firm hand.  While helping you shape the sheath, the bouncer has also burnished the edge of the seam.   Your bouncer will do a good job of consolidating the fibers of the leather on the back and along the seam.  When satisfied, pull and dry the blade and let the project sit until it dries.



Once dry, bathe it in neatsfoot and then  dye it to color. 


Once it dries again, go over it with a shoe brush and don’t take any prisoners.  Put a finish that will give you a patina you like, punch two holes in the ear at the top and one or two at the base and Bob’s your uncle.








The picture falls a little short of showing the texture and aged character on this sheath.  One word about distressing or aging;  On cowhide, the lower priced  hides from the third world will often advertise brand marks, natural scarring or irregularities.  Using Neatsfoot oil before dying will sometimes bring features and flaws like that out.  Combining that with a duller patina and flattened color on the edging  may make your project look like it has been aged.  Other than that, the only way to attain aging is through use rather than chemical agents.
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Offline old george

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Re: Every Man a Cobbler; The Bouncer and Center/Side Seam Knife Sheath
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2020, 10:02:14 PM »
Capgun,
 Thanks for the nice tutorial on the center seam sheath and Merry Christmas.

george
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Re: Every Man a Cobbler; The Bouncer and Center/Side Seam Knife Sheath
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2020, 05:45:36 AM »
Capgun, Great tutorial! I'm  going to have to try it out. Thanks for posting.

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Re: Every Man a Cobbler; The Bouncer and Center/Side Seam Knife Sheath
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2020, 10:38:56 AM »
Good work Capgun.
I will try your method next time. I usually tape the blade edge, wrap a it in plastic wrap and wet the sheath quite a bit. Then insert the knife and turn the sheath from edge seam to center seam with the knife in it. Press and "bone" to mold to the knife. When the leather is dry I warm it and soak in some beeswax to harden it and help keep it's shape.

I like the doorknob idea, I have a similar one around somewhere.

Offline Mike from OK

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Re: Every Man a Cobbler; The Bouncer and Center/Side Seam Knife Sheath
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2020, 09:10:30 PM »
Thank you sir!

I may have to try this. Even I couldn't screw this up... Maybe.

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Re: Every Man a Cobbler; The Bouncer and Center/Side Seam Knife Sheath
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2020, 09:36:09 AM »
On a somewhat related note... How exactly were these "worn" on a belt?

Mike

Offline Nit Wit

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Re: Every Man a Cobbler; The Bouncer and Center/Side Seam Knife Sheath
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2020, 05:19:40 PM »
They were probably stuck in a sash. Later the Scandinavians added a leather loop to theirs.
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Offline Brokennock

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Re: Every Man a Cobbler; The Bouncer and Center/Side Seam Knife Sheath
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2020, 02:57:25 AM »
On a somewhat related note... How exactly were these "worn" on a belt?

Mike
Not the best image, and certainly not a correct belt.


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Re: Every Man a Cobbler; The Bouncer and Center/Side Seam Knife Sheath
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2020, 05:46:09 AM »
Nock, is that leather thong tied to the belt or are you just slipping it between your belt and shirt?

Ive got a sheath with a belt loop sewn to the back but I don't use it... I just slip it under my belt. Quick and easy but not super comfortable if you have any paunch and/or need to bend over.  :D

I figure most of them fellers back then did whatever was handy/comfortable for em... Unless there's some reason I'm missing for doing it a certain way.

Anyway, I've managed to hijack CGK's thread. I may start another about such things.

Mike

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Re: Every Man a Cobbler; The Bouncer and Center/Side Seam Knife Sheath
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2020, 10:20:23 AM »
Nock, is that leather thong tied to the belt or are you just slipping it between your belt and shirt?

Ive got a sheath with a belt loop sewn to the back but I don't use it... I just slip it under my belt. Quick and easy but not super comfortable if you have any paunch and/or need to bend over.  :D

I figure most of them fellers back then did whatever was handy/comfortable for em... Unless there's some reason I'm missing for doing it a certain way.

Anyway, I've managed to hijack CGK's thread. I may start another about such things.

Mike


If I chose the right image, this should show the thong through the ridge created by the seam when turned to make it a center seam sheath. The thing then just ties loosely around belt or sash to keep from loosing it if it gets pushed out from the bottom. I usually wear with a sash and feel the sash holds it better than than the stiff leather belt.

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Re: Every Man a Cobbler; The Bouncer and Center/Side Seam Knife Sheath
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2020, 07:16:09 PM »
Thank you sir.

Mike

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Re: Every Man a Cobbler; The Bouncer and Center/Side Seam Knife Sheath
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2020, 07:50:33 PM »
Thanks for the replies and pics.  Since I have been making only belt bags lately, I have taken to tacking the sheath right onto the bag.  It rides at belt level and is not at all uncomfortable.



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Re: Every Man a Cobbler; The Bouncer and Center/Side Seam Knife Sheath
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2020, 06:58:23 PM »
The sheaths have a kind of utilitarian attractiveness, but that belt bag is truly a beautiful work of art. :)