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Offline tippit

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Recommendations on Cold Bluing Products
« on: December 20, 2020, 07:35:43 PM »
I'm more interested in trying some cold bluing of knife blades that I forge...tippit

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Re: Recommendations on Cold Bluing Products
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2020, 08:18:13 PM »
Any product that gives a rust brown will also give you cold (rust) blue, if you boil the browned steel in distilled water for about 15 minutes.  You'll want to card off the black oxide after boiling too, yielding a wonderful burnished blue.  I use Brownell's carding wheel and 0000 steel wool.
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Re: Recommendations on Cold Bluing Products
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2020, 05:53:08 PM »
I like Bronnells Oxpho Blue liquid.  It's pretty easy to apply, is super tough, and does not after rust.  Birchwood Casey super blue is also good

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Re: Recommendations on Cold Bluing Products
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2020, 07:14:14 PM »
I second Oxpho-Blue for durability.  I've not found it to be not quite as bright as other of the cold blue solutions, but it is tough.  Part of that is due to the phosphate component in the solution which contributes to rust resistance.

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Re: Recommendations on Cold Bluing Products
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2020, 09:23:07 PM »
In my humble opinion there there is no place on a hi end firearm for cold copper smelling stinky blue!!

Offline Jerry

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Re: Recommendations on Cold Bluing Products
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2020, 09:29:23 PM »
I have used 44/40 with great results for years. I sometimes buy the gel. Jerry

Offline deepcreekdale

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Re: Recommendations on Cold Bluing Products
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2020, 11:41:41 PM »
You might also play around with the brass tarnishing solutions that Jim Kibler sells. I gives a very nice, pleasing bluish grey color which is surprisingly durable and rust resistant. It is not a rust blue finish as far as depth and durability goes, but it might fit your needs.
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Re: Recommendations on Cold Bluing Products
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2020, 11:48:35 PM »
Tippit, follow Taylor's advice.  The chemicals in cold bluing solutions are not acceptable for use around food.  Cold blue is essentially a selenium activated copper plating turned dark. Food acids will remove it. Selenium is extremely toxic.  And I am in Graybeard's camp.
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Offline Eric Smith

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Re: Recommendations on Cold Bluing Products
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2020, 11:58:17 PM »
I too am interested in the idea of cold blueing some knives made from 5160 steel.  My knives are large Bowies that I want to display.
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Offline Daryl

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Re: Recommendations on Cold Bluing Products
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2020, 10:15:28 PM »
I would suggest the Birchwood Casey's Gun Blue Paste.  Rub it in, several fresh applications over and over then wash in cold water, wipe dry and oil
with your choice. I use WD40 after the washing & wiping & rub that in well, too. Beautiful even dark finish, but of course, it smells like cold blue.
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Offline Scota4570

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Re: Recommendations on Cold Bluing Products
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2020, 10:31:03 PM »
I buy oxphoblue and dichophan by the quart.  Do not over polish with either.  #320 is plenty.  I like a light sandblast that just takes the shine off. 

Apply oxpho blue with scotchbrite.  You will see when it bites evenly, let it soak a bit then.  You will get black flock.  Rub that off with cloth and oil. 

Dichophan is an express blue that you boil after.  I use it like BC plum bown, apply to hot steel.  I apply it with degreased steel wool until it evens up.  Then boil or steam. 

Both make a durable blue black.  Not everyone can do real rust bluing at home. These are viable options. 

I bet a real gunsmith would "blue" your knife blades with a hot caustic process for a minimal fee if you did the polish.