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Offline Prospector8083

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Barrel pin mishap
« on: November 01, 2021, 02:31:38 AM »
     I built a flint rifle from a kit and did a near perfect job but when putting the pin through the stock it made a chip! The pin is the one nearest the lock in the forearm area. I used ferric acid to color the stock and traditional oil finish. Has anybody ever inletted a brass inlay after finishing? I am not good enough to do a perfect job without sanding and recoloring. How would you fix it?

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Re: Barrel pin mishap
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2021, 02:40:15 AM »
Pictures.....

Offline smylee grouch

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Re: Barrel pin mishap
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2021, 05:49:59 AM »
How big is the chip and how big is the pin? Yes a picture might bring a good fix to light.  :)

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Re: Barrel pin mishap
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2021, 01:25:34 PM »
Chips happen around the pins.   Most orignial guns show a lot of chips and wear around the pin holes.   I would just leave it and not worry about it.  If you use the gun,  I will get a lot of dents and scratches.   Just keep oil and wax on it.

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Re: Barrel pin mishap
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2021, 05:10:47 PM »
Have you rounded the end of the pin to eliminate a sharp edge that could catch the rim of the hole? I round and slightly taper the ends of the pins to prevent chipping out the edge of the hole.

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Re: Barrel pin mishap
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2021, 07:14:08 PM »
The purpose of escutcheons is to prevent chipping.....especially if the ends of the pin aren't rounded. I use escutcheons w/ keys  but not w/ pins....less work just rounding the ends of the pins. Escutcheons would cover the "chip" if you are able to inlet "neatly" in a finished stock.....Fred
« Last Edit: November 01, 2021, 07:20:36 PM by flehto »

Offline Daryl

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Re: Barrel pin mishap
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2021, 07:39:47 PM »
Yes- rounded works. I remove the barrels of my pinned flinters for cleaning after every time I shoot them. NP - no chips.
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Re: Barrel pin mishap
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2021, 08:58:06 PM »
Chips happen around the pins.   Most orignial guns show a lot of chips and wear around the pin holes.   I would just leave it and not worry about it.  If you use the gun,  I will get a lot of dents and scratches.   Just keep oil and wax on it.
I agree with Mark. If it really bothers you take some stain or old English polish and dab on the fresh wood. Let it dry then take some beeswax and rub it into the cross pin hole and the chipped out place. I usually rub beeswax in my cross pin holes anyway.
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Re: Barrel pin mishap
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2021, 02:04:04 AM »
     I built a flint rifle from a kit and did a near perfect job but when putting the pin through the stock it made a chip! The pin is the one nearest the lock in the forearm area. I used ferric acid to color the stock and traditional oil finish. Has anybody ever inletted a brass inlay after finishing? I am not good enough to do a perfect job without sanding and recoloring. How would you fix it?

Did that same thing recently, except I knocked out a sizeable chunk. The only way to fix it is to glue the chip back in, sand, color, and finish. Easier than fitting an inlay.

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Re: Barrel pin mishap
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2021, 02:08:29 AM »
Chips happen around the pins.   Most orignial guns show a lot of chips and wear around the pin holes.   I would just leave it and not worry about it.  If you use the gun,  I will get a lot of dents and scratches.   Just keep oil and wax on it.
I agree, 100%.   Round the ends of the pins to minimize future potential for damage.   I accidentally dropped one of my guns on the gravel drive, and I think it actually looks much better now  ;D

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Re: Barrel pin mishap
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2021, 06:33:17 PM »
   Thanks for all the advice and from now on ALL my pins will be rounded and I am convinced it would not have happened if I had done so! It is not that bad so I will leave it alone. Appreciate all the knowledge on this forum!

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Re: Barrel pin mishap
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2021, 08:20:33 PM »
Barrel pins:  I cut mine from either 1/16" welding rod or from finishing nails that are just over 1/16".  I cut them off about 1/8" - 1/4" short of the width of the forestock where they will go, so that when tapping them into the gun they cannot push wood out the far side.  I always have them enter the wood from the same side as do the lock bolts.  As the lock bolts come out of the stock from the left hand side of the rifle on a right handed rifle, so too do the pins.  That way one avoids making the pin's holes wallooned from both sides.  I rub the pins with bees wax prior to inserting them...serves two purposes:  protects the pins somewhat from rust, and makes them sticky in the holes.  Another benefit is the wax seals the small diameter hole that stock finish is unlikely to get down into.
I grind a gentle champher on the edges of the pins to help them enter the wood but don't deliberately round them over.  I push them out with a pin punch that is the same diameter or just a few thou smaller.
Sometimes, I will cut a little divot in the ends of the pins with a 1/16" centre drill in the lathe.  This helps the punch find the centre of the pin when pushing it out and helps prevent the punch from slipping off the pin into the wood along side.
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Re: Barrel pin mishap
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2021, 09:36:37 PM »
I use lengths of music wire w/ the ends shaped into a sorta "spitzer bullet" shape w/ a much blunter , flat nose. Actually the only area that's critical on a pin is  the radius as it blends w/ the diameter. If a 45 degree chamfer was on the pin, you'd still have a corner that could cause a chip.....Fred
« Last Edit: November 12, 2021, 03:18:04 PM by flehto »

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Re: Barrel pin mishap
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2021, 10:24:33 PM »
Thanks again gentlemen! I should never have that problem again with your good advice.