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EARLY DICKERT RIFLE at auction
« on: July 09, 2021, 02:49:13 PM »
Some of George Moller's collection will be at Sept Rock Island Auction including an early Dickert. The rifle is featured and described in detail, on Pages 183-185 of Moller's American Military Shoulder Arms Vol I in the chapter titled The American Long Rifle.
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Re: EARLY DICKERT RIFLE at auction
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2021, 05:18:14 PM »
There are a lot of great muzzle loaders from Moller's collection and others in the sale. Definitely keep a look out for the catalog online later this month.
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Re: EARLY DICKERT RIFLE at auction
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2021, 09:42:26 PM »
The rifle is featured and described in detail, on Pages 183-185 of Moller's American Military Shoulder Arms Vol I in the chapter titled The American Long Rifle.

Forgot to mention that George's detailed description of the rifle, in his book, includes the restorations.
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Re: EARLY DICKERT RIFLE at auction
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2021, 02:37:31 AM »
BTW--The rifle is RCA 49 as photographed before restorations.
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Re: EARLY DICKERT RIFLE at auction
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2021, 03:48:00 PM »
I walked by that gun at RIACO last week while I was there looking at some Marlins. It's quite an attractive gun in person.
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Re: EARLY DICKERT RIFLE at auction
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2021, 06:22:00 PM »
I walked by that gun at RIACO last week while I was there looking at some Marlins. It's quite an attractive gun in person.

It looks really nice in the B&W photos in George's book. I'm looking forward to seeing the color photos when everything is on line.

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The online "Flier" for the rifle states that the rifle is "documented". Was there any documentation that you were able to see?

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Re: EARLY DICKERT RIFLE at auction
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2021, 09:46:33 PM »
  Marlins ? Why that's near blasphemy on here...lol
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Re: EARLY DICKERT RIFLE at auction
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2021, 04:21:27 AM »
I walked by that gun at RIACO last week while I was there looking at some Marlins.

It's also a fish market?

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Re: EARLY DICKERT RIFLE at auction
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2021, 04:26:58 PM »
I walked by that gun at RIACO last week while I was there looking at some Marlins. It's quite an attractive gun in person.

It looks really nice in the B&W photos in George's book. I'm looking forward to seeing the color photos when everything is on line.

Mike,

The online "Flier" for the rifle states that the rifle is "documented". Was there any documentation that you were able to see?

Kent
No, it was just lying on a table along side a nifty early blunderbus as  I passed  by.
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Re: EARLY DICKERT RIFLE at auction
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2021, 05:30:59 PM »

Thanks for the info Mike.

Moller's very detailed description of the rifle in his book does not mention documentation. He does state that the forestock is replaced, but not that the lock was replaced as well. He was a stickler for detail so it is unusual that the lock replacement slipped by. The lock is certainly not that as shown in RCA. We'll assign that error to Moller's editor.
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Re: EARLY DICKERT RIFLE at auction
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2021, 05:54:10 PM »
I'd like to state that you just can't go walking around in that place willy-nilly. There are a couple rifles in the  on line only auctions coming up that I was interested in bidding on that I wanted to see the bore condition. I called over and made an appointment to view these rifles. You are escorted at all times when you are in that place and are escorted to the place where they have set out what you're interested in looking at. Your escort waits patiently while you put the ol eye-ball on what you came to see. When you are done you are escorted back out, no stopping along the way to gawk at anything else. I'm lucky because I live so close and have the chance to have a look at stuff I'm interested before I bid on it, otherwise I wouldn't bother to place a bid.  The Dickert lying on the table was just a fluke chance that it was there. There is so much in that place it is mind boggling. :o  It's like a trip to the world greatest museum for every auction. I'll be going to the premier auction viewing  to take a look at that Dickert, although it will probably be in a display case and I won't be asking to handle it as I don't have the $ to play in that league. :P   Lots of great antique muzzleloading stuff coming up.
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