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Offline Scota4570

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Brass
« on: August 31, 2021, 08:47:53 PM »
Is cartridge brass suitable for casting  rifle furniture? 
I have a sack of match prepared brass with ruined primer pockets, 9# of it.  It seems a waste to throw it away. 
I also have a bucket of this and that brass that follows me around. 

Offline flinchrocket

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Re: Brass
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2021, 09:16:01 PM »
If I am not mistaken,that is what Reaves Goehring used.

Offline Eric Kettenburg

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Re: Brass
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2021, 09:34:37 PM »
Best stuff but cartridges create a lot of dross - more surface area per pound than solid pieces.  Just make sure to skim it well before pouring.
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Offline Dan Fruth

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Re: Brass
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2021, 10:21:15 PM »
Do you believe 18th C brass make for better looking mounts, than contemporary brass?
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Offline 44-henry

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Re: Brass
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2021, 10:34:06 PM »
I have used it before, but I like to add it to previously melted material, trying to melt a pile of thin shell casings is difficult due to the large amount of surface area and thin material. Also make sure you don't have any live primers in the pile, or that will really ruin your day. We had an accident years ago in our University lab where a student was melting down cartridge casings and left a live round in the mix that was added to previously melted brass. There are still brass splotches in the foundry ceiling from the explosion.   

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Re: Brass
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2021, 10:47:58 PM »
As for differences in alloys you may find this 1858 article in Scientific American of interest. They discuss different compositions of different types of brass. I doubt there was much technological change from the  mid 18th century to the mid 19th century when the article was written.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/to-make-brass-and-alloys/

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Re: Brass
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2021, 11:03:04 PM »
Dan, every analysis I've either seen or commissioned for antique brass leads me to believe that old (17th/18th century) brass was basically cartridge brass (modern 260 alloy) with lead in it, up to maybe 2%, although of course the allow was never a perfect 70/30 ratio like modern stuff with "certificates."  But it was typically close.  When I used to run my own castings, I was using largely just straight yellow brass and I'd always add some lead to the crucibles.  Frankly I could never see or feel or smell a difference in color between what I cast and what Reeves cast.

I've read some interesting writings on brass cast during the Rev War, whereupon apparently anything went (goes).  I have seen some muskets that are believed to be American, made during that era, with brass that really looked kind of funky.  But I've never personally seen anything like that on a rifle.
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Re: Brass
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2021, 12:31:59 AM »
I find cartridge brass too soft for my use.
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Re: Brass
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2021, 05:33:52 AM »
You can add a very small amount of lead to a brass pour and it will machine (engrave) nicely. The lead will make it difficult to forge cold and impossible to hot work. If you want to harden brass, heat it up to 600 degrees and let it cool.