Author Topic: Chris Hirsch Ketland Lock  (Read 1518 times)

Offline Chunker119

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Chris Hirsch Ketland Lock
« on: February 17, 2022, 05:42:31 AM »
I am interested in the Ketland lock kit from Chris Hirsch. Has anyone put one together? What was the experience like? Never assembled a lock kit before and wondered what to expect before taking the plunge. Any help or advice is appreciated!

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Offline rich pierce

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Re: Chris Hirsch Ketland Lock
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2022, 06:18:41 AM »
Not this specific one, but other castings from Chris have been good. Check to see if it has a fly if you’re going to use set triggers.
Andover, Vermont

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Re: Chris Hirsch Ketland Lock
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2022, 11:17:17 AM »
I found the web site. Thanks for bringing these lock to my attention. C H has some interesting locks available. 

Rich, How did the lock go together for you?  There isn't much on his website. Looks like I will be making the screws. Are springs ready for use or do they require hardeneng and tempering?  How about the frizzen? Is it made from high carbon steel or does it require case hardening?  I’m feeling the need for a project. Thanks for any experience you can share.
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Re: Chris Hirsch Ketland Lock
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2022, 05:25:49 PM »
I found the web site. Thanks for bringing these lock to my attention. C H has some interesting locks available. 

Rich, How did the lock go together for you?  There isn't much on his website. Looks like I will be making the screws. Are springs ready for use or do they require hardeneng and tempering?  How about the frizzen? Is it made from high carbon steel or does it require case hardening?  I’m feeling the need for a project. Thanks for any experience you can share.

It’s a set of castings. All hardening and tempering needs to be done. Tumbler will need to be tried and turned. The frizzen will harden through and through, though craftsmen I know like to deep pack case harden every frizzen.
Andover, Vermont

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Re: Chris Hirsch Ketland Lock
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2022, 05:57:40 PM »
Thanks Rich.

It is always good to hear first hand experience. I’m guessing you made your screws as well. This isnt your average Siler kit build.  It will take some heat treat knowledge.  I look forward to the challenge of putting one together.
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Re: Chris Hirsch Ketland Lock
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2022, 06:09:15 PM »
Yeah, I made screws. I buy screw blanks from Brownell’s and modify the heads and thread them. They are really tough steel.
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Re: Chris Hirsch Ketland Lock
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2022, 06:45:09 PM »
That was one of the first set of molds and castings I made.  I assembled the one that is shown in the photo. 

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Re: Chris Hirsch Ketland Lock
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2022, 08:02:46 PM »
Like Rich says, Brownells screw blanks are great. Get a pack of #4 and #6. These screws are slightly oversize in diameter, so mike them for drill size. I like to drill clearance holes very slightly small and fit the screw shanks with valve grinding compound, that way the screws fit perfectly. Lock sets are challenging to assemble but if you go carefully and thoughtfully you can finish up with a nice lock. Heat treating is just physics and there is a minimum of voodoo involved. It is all information thats available. As with anything there is a learning curve. Consider getting two casting sets because somewhere along the line you will pooch something and the second chance will give you the opportunity to correct the mistake. Repairing mistakes is a whole adventure by itself and you can go back to it. If you have never put a lock together, consider building a musket lock first. bigger screws, lower (relatively) tolerances and simply having more steel bordering the holes adds a measure of forgiveness to the project. keep us posted as problems arise and we will relate our experiences.