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Offline Molly

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Just another Hawken
« on: July 19, 2022, 05:17:42 PM »
Put yourself in the position of a fur trader heading west and taking delivery of his new Hawken.  It is handed to him in the shop and his eyes make the first contact.  What goes through his mind?  Just another Hawken?  There is another story on this which I'll post later.














Offline jbigley

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Re: Just another Hawken
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2022, 05:34:58 PM »
Really nice looking rifle! Interested in hearing the back story...
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Re: Just another Hawken
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2022, 05:39:12 PM »
Well, just another hawken, at first glance maybe, but probably not. If I see the perfect fit of the parts, I have the greatest respect for the builder. This is outstanding craftsmanship and the clean look emphasizes that.

Christian
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Re: Just another Hawken
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2022, 05:53:31 PM »
Is that from Don Stith and his stuff?  He told me he sold you a few rifles and a few of his parts kits.  Great rifle for hunting.  Caliber?

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Re: Just another Hawken
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2022, 06:08:01 PM »
Here is the story.  Several years ago Don Stith asked Roger Sells to build him a Hawken.  Don was thinking a full stock flintlock as near to an original full stock flintlock as Don's fancy had it.  It seems that Roger and Don were pretty good friends so Roger took up the task.  I'm not sure about all the components.  Some may have been provided by Don, some made by Roger and some may be acquired from commercial sources.  I do believe that the butt plate is in two pieces which suggests it's not a commercially available item (?).  Don't yet know the barrel, lock and trigger makers but have a note to Roger requesting the info.  My husband and I met up with Roger at the CLA show maybe 3 years ago and picked it up to bring home to Don.  Don was thrilled with it and sat on his couch admiring it the entire time we were there.  The fit and finish of this rifle tops anything I have EVER seem.  No, it's not a bling.  I think in terms that Roger uses he would call it "graceful".

Sometime after Don's wife died (I think) I posted a "wanted ad" here for a Roger Sells rifle.  A day or so later Don called and asked if a Hawken by Roger would do.  I knew where that conversation was going and a day or so later we went over and picked it up.  It must have been mid to late year 2020 as we were all in our masks and I put the check in the back of our SUV.  Don picked it up and put the rifle down in its place.  We closed the gate, waved and drove home.  In later conversations with Don I assured him I would take care of it until he was better and able to shoot it.  Unfortunately that day never came but we spoke of it often and our desire to see him regain a strong measure of health.  We have never shot it and maybe never will.  A side note.  It has no flash hole liner.  Also the guard is more "late" Hawken that "early".  Not sure what that is but I sure like it better the way it is.

So now we have ourselves two works by Roger Sells.  If you don't know Roger then you are unaware of the man we feel is the "best of the best".  Now if we can just get him to replicate an Ambrose Lawing for us our collection would be complete.

Offline Bob Roller

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Re: Just another Hawken
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2022, 06:23:37 PM »
Don't know who made it but am 99.9% sure the triggers are from my shop and the lock MIGHT be a Chambers Ketland with my internal parts,The cock IS the one I used on a number of Ketlands of a completely different style.WHOever made it had more than a vague idea as to what he wanted it to look like.Great workmanship and obviously no attempt to  copy any old one.
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Re: Just another Hawken
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2022, 06:26:55 PM »
Fine looking rifle that looks well made to me.

Ken
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Re: Just another Hawken
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2022, 07:40:57 PM »
That is a fine looking Rifle.  I have a Kit Carson Hawken made by Roger.  He is a top of the line rifle builder.  I got to see some of Don's original Hawkens before he left us.  A fine man he was.
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Re: Just another Hawken
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2022, 07:53:45 PM »
I think in terms that Roger uses he would call it "graceful".

That's the first thing that came to mind for me. On a forum where I get to look at fine rifles all day long, this one really sets itself apart, and the accompanying story was a real treat. Thank you for sharing.

The only suggestion, and I understand the apprehension, is you should shoot the heck out of that gun! I'd feel slighted in the After if my friends didn't shoot the rifling out of my gun.

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Re: Just another Hawken
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2022, 07:57:10 PM »
I may have missed it, but what caliber?

Jerry

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Re: Just another Hawken
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2022, 09:25:02 PM »
It's a 50.  That also is an entertaining tail.  We just knew it was going to be a 54.  Went out and got all the 54 cal goodies to shoot and maintain it and then made the discovery! :D