Since Roop seems to be in the present thread, Nov. 8, another Roop up for auction. If I am not mistaken, this one has no patchbox, Golcher lock and double set triggers. Also a reported Gibbs of Lancaster going off. Paladin Auctions, Annville, PA (717) 991-7000 for further info. Plus about 100 other old guns, not Kentuckys going off. That's two Roops within 20 miles of my shop in 2 days. Gosh, I love central Pennsylvania. JWH