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Offline paulitus

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Dutch guns
« on: May 08, 2023, 06:35:20 PM »
Just visited the museum in Amsterdam, and they have some nice guns. It is fascinating to see some of the same stying and features that we see on Hudson Valley Fowlers, even on pieces that were built a century earlier, in Holland.

Offline Adrie luke

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Re: Dutch guns
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2023, 10:59:56 AM »
It's still raining in the Netherlands,
 another option to visit

https://www.nmm.nl/nl/

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Re: Dutch guns
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2023, 11:23:10 PM »
There's a really nice book titled  Dutch Muskets and Pistols by Kist, Puype, Van Der mark, and Van der Sloot that covers 17th C. Dutch arms. Skipping through all the different Dutch lock styles there in that time period we see that the round faced 'banana' shaped locks often seen on Hudson Valley Fowlers start showing up in tail end of the 4th quarter of the 17th c. in the Netherlands. The full evolution to that style, based on the last two plates in this book, date one gun to 1688 and the next to 1690. Of course, the Brits took New Amsterdam (New York Harbor) in 1666 and opened the region trade wise which I believe accounts for the wide array if locks, including their own, used by the Colonial Dutch builders through the 18c (see Grinslade's book).  The Dutch builders did however  hang tough on their own style of carving  using the acanthus leaf motif.   'Sorry for the 'ramble', but you struck a nerve (chuckle).  Cheers, Fred 

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Re: Dutch guns
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2023, 12:34:51 AM »
Dutch guns don't get the respect they deserve.
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Offline Eric Kettenburg

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Re: Dutch guns
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2023, 02:03:44 AM »
Neither did Rodney Dangerfield.
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Re: Dutch guns
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2023, 02:27:26 AM »
  Rodney Van der Dangerfield !  A close second only to W.C. Fields.