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Offline Hank01

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Barrel stamping dies
« on: June 17, 2023, 01:33:07 PM »
I searched the forums and the WWW for stamping dies that resemble these:



No luck so far. TOW carries some stamping dies but not these. Anyone know how to make 'em? Found a company in India that claims they can make hand stamping dies of any design. Unknown company, unknown quality. Just not willing to risk it. Any tool and die makers here?

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Re: Barrel stamping dies
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2023, 04:33:31 PM »
Davec2  might pipe in. I recall he made a few for his rifles.
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Re: Barrel stamping dies
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2023, 01:13:41 AM »
Infinity Stamps will make custom "logo" stamps to your design. I don't know if they make "negative" stamps where the letters/image is in relief.
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Re: Barrel stamping dies
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2023, 01:39:57 AM »
There is a thread on this somewhere on ALR, but here is a link to a search that seems to have a lot of sources:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=custom+hand+stamping+dies+-etsy&atb=v309-1&ia=web

I should order a couple myself, let us know what you decide on.

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Re: Barrel stamping dies
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2023, 04:14:05 AM »
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Re: Barrel stamping dies
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2023, 12:44:27 PM »
Thanks for the feedback guys. We'll do some research using Carl's link and the referral posted by James and RAT.

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Re: Barrel stamping dies
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2023, 03:42:44 PM »
This can be simple or very difficult depending on how close you want it to the original work.  The original stamps are three dimensional and carved / modeled.  These can be made, but are of course much more difficult than the simple two dimensional stamps most are familiar with.

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Re: Barrel stamping dies
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2023, 03:49:49 PM »
Hank,

This might be of some help......touch mark press and dies I made....

https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=1138.msg11556#msg11556
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Re: Barrel stamping dies
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2023, 01:31:46 PM »
This can be simple or very difficult depending on how close you want it to the original work.  The original stamps are three dimensional and carved / modeled.  These can be made, but are of course much more difficult than the simple two dimensional stamps most are familiar with.

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I'd like to keep 'em as close to original as possible. Just need to find a source.

Hank,

This might be of some help......touch mark press and dies I made....

https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=1138.msg11556#msg11556

That's an impressive set up Dave. Pun is intentional. We have an hydraulic bearing press and with a couple mods it can be used for making the impression. As for the dies, i spent considerable time studying yours. Man, do you have the skill! Even if i had the tools to work and shape HSS there's no way i could do that. Thanks for your feedback. Yes, it is helpful.

In the meantime i contacted a few companies. One has already responded with a "sorry, we don't do that". No answer yet from the rest of 'em.

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Re: Barrel stamping dies
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2023, 02:46:22 PM »
Has anyone experimented with using an EDM Burn procedure for a project like this? It involves carving the carbon electrode, similar to a steel stamp, and the burn process eliminates the risk of barrel deformation from pressure. I'm not making a recommendation, just curious if anyone in gunsmithing has experience with this approach, as I've only used EDM burn in my professional work.

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Re: Barrel stamping dies
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2023, 06:09:32 PM »
OK. I can't see anything but the pictures..... but.......... are those not brass or gold castings that have been inlaid in the barrel???   Seems that would be a simpler wary to create the same effect??
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Re: Barrel stamping dies
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2023, 06:57:02 PM »
OK. I can't see anything but the pictures..... but.......... are those not brass or gold castings that have been inlaid in the barrel???   Seems that would be a simpler wary to create the same effect??

Gold sheet set into a mortice that is undercut and / or has teeth raised.  The sheet is struck with the forming die that shapes it and locks it into place.

Once the forming punch is made, the easiest way for sure.