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Offline Dave B

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Unusual Hawken sight detail.
« on: August 20, 2023, 10:00:40 PM »
Original Hawken sight at musem of the fur trade was made to be fine tuned for ellevation. I have never run across this detail before.




Here is a non adjustable sight for comparison on one of their other Hawken rifles rifle


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Re: Unusual Hawken sight detail.
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2023, 10:36:40 PM »
Was the "adjustable" one held in place with a set screw or is it "friction" fit?
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Re: Unusual Hawken sight detail.
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2023, 10:48:20 PM »
I saw no screw but you can see the dovetail holding the insert  in place. I assume its just friction.
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Re: Unusual Hawken sight detail.
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2023, 03:43:14 AM »
I am guessing it was never meant to be adjustable, probably done after the fact to change the sight profile.

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Re: Unusual Hawken sight detail.
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2023, 05:02:05 AM »
Adjustable for when sighting in and just left where it was when the gun was shooting where the owner was happy.  ;D

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Re: Unusual Hawken sight detail.
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2023, 05:09:07 AM »
Interesting find David!
Where was this located?

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Re: Unusual Hawken sight detail.
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2023, 12:56:25 PM »
Instead of changing the entire sight, they modded it. I have done something similar before myself, however not as nice as that.
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Offline Dave B

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Re: Unusual Hawken sight detail.
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2023, 04:14:29 AM »
William, the adjustable sight is on the S.  Hawken rifle in the stand alone glass display case at The museum of the fur trade in Chadron Nebraska
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Re: Unusual Hawken sight detail.
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2023, 06:09:37 AM »


This is the back of the last sight shown it give a better idea what the sight picture would look like.
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Re: Unusual Hawken sight detail.
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2023, 06:49:36 PM »
Im betting the owner ran out of front sight and wanted a higher point of impact so this was done. A generation later gunsmiths Frank Freund and Walter Cooper frequently put sliding inserts in their rear sights held with little set screws

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Re: Unusual Hawken sight detail.
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2023, 06:19:01 AM »
I doubt that the Hawken Shop did this but its possible. IIRC Sam, in and interview, said that no matter what sights he installed people would change them. Someone could have done this in the 1920s or 30s if its a shooter.
I sure would not recreate it if I were building a rifle.
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