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Offline Big Al2

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Punt gun barrel makers
« on: November 08, 2023, 03:37:10 PM »
can someone tell me who can make me a 2-bore 48'' barrel for a punt gun i am building.

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Re: Punt gun barrel makers
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2023, 04:14:45 PM »
I believe Ed Rayle can make that for you.

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Re: Punt gun barrel makers
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2023, 05:00:31 PM »
Al,
Welcome to the forum!

The barrel wants to weigh about 48 pounds, and to get anything out of it wants to be a good bit longer than 48 inches.
 I'd say you need about a  7 foot barrel.

Please keep us updated on your project!

All the best,
Richard,

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Re: Punt gun barrel makers
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2023, 05:58:30 PM »
I agree Pukka, I'm thinking it was Col. Hawker that laid out a lot of info on what was needed  for best results in a punt gun.  :-\

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Re: Punt gun barrel makers
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2023, 06:12:35 PM »
It ain't gonna be cheap.
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Re: Punt gun barrel makers
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2023, 08:07:59 PM »
It’s basically a cannon barrel. Few barrel makers have the equipment to bore and turn something that size. Some other custom shop might be able to. Maybe there are some military ordinance barrels out there that could be adapted.
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Re: Punt gun barrel makers
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2023, 08:10:45 PM »
Welcome to the forum, Big Al2.  Going to be quite a 'build'.
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Re: Punt gun barrel makers
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2023, 08:34:29 PM »
 I would suggest checking the regulations on owning a non-antique punt gun, which is technically a long barreled canon. Some states have regulations that restrict that sort of thing.

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Re: Punt gun barrel makers
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2023, 08:41:59 PM »
 Just out of curiosity; what are you going to use it, the gun for? When you say "Punt Gun" I think of "Sneak Skiffs" and "Outlaw Hunters".

    Thanks, Tim C.

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Re: Punt gun barrel makers
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2023, 09:07:30 PM »
They show up for sale once in a while.



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Re: Punt gun barrel makers
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2023, 01:31:41 AM »
They come through RIACo on a regular basis. Probably cheaper than you could get a new barrel made.
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Re: Punt gun barrel makers
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2023, 01:41:40 AM »
For a rifled punt gun, I think I would consider a barrel from one of the 40 mm Bofors barrels.  These were made to be readily - and quickly - changeable.

The last punt gun I saw in person was on the Eastern Shore of Cheasapeake Bay.  It had a 2" bore, and was roughly 10' long.  And yeah, you may have a bit of trouble with the authorities with any other than a display gun.
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Re: Punt gun barrel makers
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2023, 02:42:49 AM »
I am aware that its use is controversial, but industrialtube.com offers true seamless tubing in sizes that would be appropriate for a punt gun barrel.  The tube is made by piercing a billet which is then rolled and drawn to the final dimensions.  It is not a welded tube that has been drawn for a smooth finish.  For example, 2" OD by 1.000 or 1.125 ID.
Just a thought...

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Re: Punt gun barrel makers
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2023, 03:04:15 AM »
2 bore would be approximately 1.326", which is actual measurement.
A ball that size in pure lead, of course weighs 8 ounces.
In Canada it would be a prohibited firearm.
In the States, probably not a firearm at all, being a muzzleloader.
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Re: Punt gun barrel makers
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2023, 03:04:16 PM »
Thank you gentlemen for all the information, The Punt gun i am trying to build is a light Punt gun what the British call it.
The main thing getting started.The main thing is getting a barrel made.

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Re: Punt gun barrel makers
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2023, 05:58:37 PM »
Al,
You do right to find a barrel, either old or new, first, as the barrel length and weight determines the punt.
A good few were made of high end hydraulic tubing back home, sleeved with the same over the breech.

A mate and myself made a small gun in this manner in four bore.  I seem to recall it was only about a four foot barrel.

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Re: Punt gun barrel makers
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2023, 06:14:58 PM »
Thank you gentlemen for all the information, The Punt gun i am trying to build is a light Punt gun what the British call it.
The main thing getting started.The main thing is getting a barrel made.

You might ask the Kentucky Ballistics folks on youtube where they got theirs...

Speaking of which, I noticed that your initial post here coincides with the date of their latest punt gun video, and on the off-chance that your question was inspired by their zombie-blasting, I'd like to observe that apart from the length and size of the bore, their punt gun is not a particularly good representation of original punt guns nor are they employing it in any way close to the actual design role of a punt gun. If you want to do what they are doing on a more manageable scale, you might want to look into wall guns, also called rampart guns or (in the East) jingals. Wall guns are essentially super-sized muskets (or rifles, in a few cases) that were used for defending fortifications, straddling the line between a shoulder arm and an artillery piece, and firing either shot or ball as the occasion demanded. If you are interested in historical accuracy, you might find them more versatile than a true punt gun, and even if you aren't it might be easier to find information  - I know that a couple people on the forum here have made a wall gun at one point or another.
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Re: Punt gun barrel makers
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2023, 07:27:29 PM »
Sounds like the OP wants to build something more akin to a bank gun.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2023, 07:31:32 PM by James Rogers »

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Re: Punt gun barrel makers
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2023, 06:57:34 AM »
James,
Yes a presentable bank gun can be in four  to two bore.
They do need a barrel over four feet to handle the charge well though.

Elnathan,
Very good reply!