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standard roundball sizes
« on: December 26, 2009, 03:01:33 AM »
I am trying to determine a standard roundball size for the most popular big game hunting calibers. But I want to hedge on the smaller end of the sizes so as to accommodate a harder than soft lead projectile and a little thicker patch? I'd love to hear as many opinions as possible on this topic. Here is what I have came up with so far...

.45-- .440
.50-- .490
.54--.530
.58-- .570
.62-- .595

I know that many guns prefer odd sizes, but I am trying to come up with a standard that will fit most.

thanks for all ya'lls help.
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Re: standard roundball sizes
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2009, 03:17:27 AM »
I understood that the industry standard "nominal" or "default" ball size was .010" under a given bore size.

Also, here's a handy chart that might be of some help now or in the future:
Pure Lead Ball Weight

.310   =   45 grains
.315   =   47 grains
.321   =   50 grains
.350   =   65 grains
.360   =   71 grains
.375   =   80 grains
.395   =   92 grains
.400   =   96 grains
.433   =   122 grains
.437   =   127 grains
.440   =   128 grains
.445   =   133 grains
.451   =   138 grains
.454   =   141 grains
.457   =   144 grains
.490   =   177 grains
.498   =   180 grains
.520   =   212 grains
.530   =   224 grains
.535   =   231 grains
.543   =   241 grains
.550   =   251 grains
.560   =   260 grains
.562   =   276 grains
.570   =   279 grains
.575   =   286 grains
.595   =   317 grains
.600   =   325 grains
.610   =   342 grains
.648   =   410 grains
.662   =   437 grains
.678   =   469 grains
.680   =   473 grains
.690   =   495 grains
.715   =   550 grains
.730   =   586 grains
.735   =   598 grains
.760   =   661 grains
.775   =   700 grains
.835   =   875 grains
.919   =   1167 grains
1.052   =   1750 grains





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Re: standard roundball sizes
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2009, 03:41:18 AM »
I am trying to determine a standard roundball size for the most popular big game hunting calibers. But I want to hedge on the smaller end of the sizes so as to accommodate a harder than soft lead projectile and a little thicker patch? I'd love to hear as many opinions as possible on this topic. Here is what I have came up with so far...

.45-- .440
.50-- .490
.54--.530
.58-- .570
.62-- .595

I know that many guns prefer odd sizes, but I am trying to come up with a standard that will fit most.

thanks for all ya'lls help.

.595 is too small for a rifled 62 OK maybe for a smoothbore.

Also what loads easy is also different from what shoots best.
I would add .005 to every ball size you have listed other than the 62.
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Re: standard roundball sizes
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2009, 05:18:32 AM »
Dan, I was under the impression that a thicker patch was in order when a harder ball is used? I am trying to come up with a standard for all rifles deep rifling and shallow... I know, it will be almost impossible to come up with a perfect ball size for everyone---but my goal is to just get reasonable hunting accuracy...
So would you still want to go up .005?

thanks for the help everyone... If I can some up with the best average for each caliber---

Ken
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Re: standard roundball sizes
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2009, 03:54:05 PM »
One problem you may have is that different "standard calibers" often vary slightly from maker to maker.  For a while the "production" rifles like TC seemed to use a samller ball, like a 440 or 490 for their recommended loads.  A custom gun with a Douglas barrel definitely wanted a 445 or 495 ball.  As to a universal, especially for a hunting load, probably a 490 in a 50 for instance, or a 530 in a 54 would accomodate almost all barrels with a harder cast ball.  I believe Hornady makes a 485 hard cast for that purpose ???.  Lloyd in the 50 cal and moose thread stated the results of his test with just a slight hardening of lead, about 50-50 lead WW.  Its about the same as the birdshot alloy I use in cast bullets.  A little bit of hardening can go a long ways.  They used to use just tin.  Personally I think the .010 under is about as close as you can go.  Some older foerign made ML's may be too tight but for most modern made guns it should work.

DP