Help Identifying Maker

[Fullstock longrifle]

I came across this rifle today that needs some help. The barrel is signed, but I can’t make it out, any idea who this maker is? Thanks for your help.

[Avlrc]

Nice find. Is it a Maryland rifle?    I see N. Van Owen Oer.   I never heard of a maker with that name. That is a riddle.

[Fullstock longrifle]

Nice find. Is it a Maryland rifle?    I see N. Van Owen Oer.   I never heard of a maker with that name. That is a riddle.

It does have some Maryland features Mark, but I can’t make out enough of the signature to tell.

[lexington1]

I hope that you find out. It looks like a nice rifle. I would guess Western Pa?

[JTR]

I'd think W. Pa as well.
For the name, still looking, hoping something will pop up out of there.

[Avlrc]

I hope that you find out. It looks like a nice rifle. I would guess Western Pa?

Yeah, the box & side plate do look WPA.

[Shreckmeister]

Reminds me of Jacob Earnest/Allison and WPA. Did you look through Rick’s book?

[Avlrc]

I looked in Rick's book and could not find a name like/close to that.  Does anyone else think the last name is Van Owen Oer?

Do you wonder if he shortened it up to Oer or Van Owen sometime later?

[Fullstock longrifle]

Reminds me of Jacob Earnest/Allison and WPA. Did you look through Rick’s book?

Yes, I checked it out, couldn’t find anything close unfortunately.

[Fullstock longrifle]

I looked in Rick's book and could not find a name like/close to that.  Does anyone else think the last name is Van Owen Oer?

Do you wonder if he shortened it up to Oer or Van Owen sometime later?

The name is done so light it’s hard to say Mark.

[homerifle]

Nice find Frank! I'm thinking western Pa. also. I like the patchbox engraving and eagle. Interesting signature.

[Fullstock longrifle]

Nice find Frank! I'm thinking western Pa. also. I like the patchbox engraving and eagle. Interesting signature.

Yes, I’m sure it is, the box looks like Allison’s work, but it’s not him.

[jdm]

I'm in the Western Pa. camp also. Icouldn't find any name close.  Perhaps the name of the owner?

[Fullstock longrifle]

I'm in the Western Pa. camp also. Icouldn't find any name close.  Perhaps the name of the owner?

I’ve never seen an owners name on the top flat, but I cleaned the signature some and it’s N Vangivenger.

[jdm]

How about last name Vandevender or Vandevandor  ?

[Fullstock longrifle]

How about last name Vandevender or Vandevandor  ?

[Avlrc]

Here is a Nicholas Vandivender from Western Pa, right time frame.  You might be able to find his occupation in the 1850 census records.

 https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/8948780/nicholas-vandivender

[Fullstock longrifle]

Here is a Nicholas Vandivender from Western Pa, right time frame.  You might be able to find his occupation in the 1850 census records.

 https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/8948780/nicholas-vandivender

Thanks Mark, that sure looks close!

[Shreckmeister]

I'm in the Western Pa. camp also. Icouldn't find any name close.  Perhaps the name of the owner?

I’ve never seen an owners name on the top flat, but I cleaned the signature some and it’s N Vangivenger.

   I have seen a handful with owners name but all made by Shreckengost.

[Fullstock longrifle]

I'm in the Western Pa. camp also. Icouldn't find any name close.  Perhaps the name of the owner?

I’ve never seen an owners name on the top flat, but I cleaned the signature some and it’s N Vangivenger.

   I have seen a handful with owners name but all made by Shreckengost.

I’ve actually seen one, but it had the gunsmiths name, then “for” and the owners name after that.