Tang Mounted Peep Sights

[Elmer Swank]

 I have a 32 inch .40 cal. drop in rice barrel on an Investarms stock. I have tang mounted peep sights. The hook breech fits the tang snugly. The stock could fit better. I shoot 50 yard bench matches with it. It will shoot as many 10's as 9's. For cleaning I remove the barrel. I am thinking that bedding the barrel to the stock will make the barrel fit the stock the same after cleaning. Anyone with rifles with tang mounted sights let me know what you think.

[smokinbuck]

Any time you have a tang mounted sight and. Remove the barrel for cleaning you take a chance of changing the point of impact, especially if the stock is a poor fit.

[snapper]

Have you tried removing the barrel and seeing what happens?

What is the downside for you if you bed the stock?

I have at least 4 rifles with removable barrels and peep sights.   I never worry about the change of impact as the result.

My peeps are all adjustable for elevation and windage.  Just a matter of cranking on the sights to push the bullet towards the center.

Fleener

[recurve]

I use a tang mounted peep to work up loads I cowitness with my rear sights the above rifle has 2 barrels the  green mtn shown and a bHoyt 54 gain twist I've not noticed any change on target and I remove/change barrel
but it is bedded
 


I cowitness all my rifle sights the peeps act to sharpen up the other sights

[Scota4570]

My first ML was a TC Hawken.  I installed a lyman 57 peep sight and a #17 front globe sight.  Accuracy was not very good.  I full length glass bedded the barrel and tang.  Accuracy improved a bunch.  I suspect that the barrel flopping around in the factory inletting was not conducive to shot  to shot consistency. 

[Kurt]

If the rifle is a flintlock don't remove the barrel to clean it. If a percussion without a nipple drum it would be recommended the barrel be removed and you do what you can to keep the sights aligned.

[Elmer Swank]

Thanks to everyone who responded to my question. I am working on bedding the .40 cal. and a .36 cal. green Mt. barrel in a similar stock. Both rifles have Lyman 57 sights with adjustable target nobs. Lyman 17 globe sight on the front. I hope bedding eliminates the small shift in point of impact from loading a tight patched dry lubed round ball, as well as be back at zero after removing the barrel for cleaning. I want the barrel to fit the same each time and not move when loading. The shift is small, but anything that takes the ball out of the 10 ring can loose the match. This Sunday I will shoot six 50 yard bench matches. I plan to use the .40 cal. Rice barrel. I shot it last month in a turkey shoot and won a turkey. Just a grocery shoot this month. Still fun.
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[Scota4570]

Mine was floppy side to side.  The barrel apparently moved between shots.  Glass bedding fixed that. 

[Darkhorse]

I have a 40 flintlock and a 54 flintlock. I built both and have a tang mounted peep sight on both. I almost always remove the barrels for cleaning and neither one has failed to return to the same point of aim. The rifles were built to be similar as close as possible to help my personal shooting. However that is where the similarity ends.
The .54 was built well over 20 years ago out of a very stable piece of maple and the barrel fits tight enough that there is no apparent wobble, plus the pins help keep it in place when reassembling it.
On the other hand the .40 was built from maple that was harvested from h***! The forend constantly twisted and even split out the last foot right at the end of the build. I don't like to hold a stock and feel distance between wood and barrel but overnight the wood warped some more and then I could feel that gap in several places. So I had 2 choices. Scrap the wood and start over or finish the rifle and see what I had. I decided to finish it.
I repaired the split out then using accra gel I bedded the loose spots and a little up the sides to  sorta lock the barrel into place. I'm still shooting this stock and I can't tell where the split out was repaired. It also hasn't warped anymore and still fits tight in the mortice. This rifle was built 20 years ago.
I think bedding the stock can assure a return to zero anytime the barrel is removed.

[Not English]

A very talented gunsmith friend is having real problems with old age and eye sight. His solution was to install what he calls a ghost peep sight in the very breech of the barrel. if a ghost sight is not a common name, picture a standard rear sight configuration with a hole drilled through it instead of a notch filed in. I've had the chance to use it and it really works. Something like that may be a solution for you as the sights are attached to the barrel only.

[Daryl]

I have been familiar with the term 'ghost (ring) peep sight" since the 70's, when referring to peep sights with small diameter outlines & larger diameter apertures whereas  the ring around the outside is thin enough, to appear "ghostly", barely there, but it works to align your eye with the rear sight, if installed as well. Otherwise, it acts like a hunting rifle's peep sight that does not obscure the background from vision, due to having both eyes open - one eye sees the post or aperture inside the ring while the other eye sees just the target.

[Scota4570]

Before scopes were common on hunting rifles knowledgeable hunters used peep sights.  Jack O'Conner advised hunters remove the peep sight disk and leave it home.  That was a "ghost ring" and good advise.   

[Daryl]

Now that you mention that, I also recall Jack O. stating that and that 'change ' was backed up by Townsend Whelen.

[alacran]

Garand battle sight, it is a ghost ring.

[Daryl]

And others.