Author Topic: How to prep bone for inlays  (Read 605 times)

Offline mikeyfirelock

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 468
  • Built 1st gun in dorm room at college
How to prep bone for inlays
« on: January 07, 2025, 04:45:21 AM »
I’m planning another flintlock Longrifle, and thinking seriously of using some bone inlays.    How do I go about preparing bone for inlaying ?   ( I’m assuming that I would go to the local butcher for bone……..and not fight the dog out in the front yard  for what he feels is rightfully his. )
I’m not thinking of large inlays or extravagant inlays. 
Just enough to highlight a couple of areas and maybe for initials.
 mikeyfirelock..hoosier “hammer built “ flintlocks
Mike Mullins

Offline rickw

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 56
Re: How to prep bone for inlays
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2025, 05:19:55 AM »
I've always used bone that has already been cleaned and bleached. I just go to a pet store and buy a pre-packaged bone. It's nice and white, and usually big enough to get some knife scales out of.
I cut it using an old-fashioned meat saw, since that's what those were used for. I also use a hacksaw with a 14 tooth blade.I try to avoid breathing the dust, as I do with sawdust also. When I sand it flat or to thickness, I use dust collection. It really smells bad, too!
I haven't tried to prepare a bone from the butcher shop, so I can't help you there.
Rick

Offline mikeyfirelock

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 468
  • Built 1st gun in dorm room at college
Re: How to prep bone for inlays
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2025, 05:47:43 AM »
Thank you, Rick,,,,,,,,I did not think of trying a pet store.  ( I assumed I’d be wrestling the neighbor’s Rottweiler for his favorite snack.  Or going to a butcher shop and coming home with something I’d have to boil. For weeks and weeks while my wife was thinking of ways to lock me away till I tired of boiling bones on her stove.
Mike Mullins

Offline Habu

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1196
Re: How to prep bone for inlays
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2025, 08:20:29 AM »
Pet store bone has not been prepped for use as carving or inlays.  It has usually been cleaned up enough that it looks nice, sometimes bleached with chlorine bleach, and pressure cooked with "flavors" so dogs will like it.  It hasn't been degreased, and this--and the possible use of chlorine bleach--will often cause problems down the road. 

If what follows seems like a long process, or a lot of work, keep in mind you can purchase properly-prepared bone for knife scales, etc from many of the suppliers.  Crazy Crow is one source, or the various luthery suppliers.  Thin bone for inlays can often be sourced from piano repair suppliers, as bone is now a common replacement for damaged ivory piano keys. 

Basic bone prep starts with the raw bone.  For a lot of stuff you can hit the local butcher up for a soup bone, or better yet, for a whole leg bone.  Have the butcher cut off the ends (or do it yourself with a hacksaw, etc).  Punch out as much of the marrow as you can, then scrape or brush as much more out as you can (old bottle or test-tube brushes work great here).  Simmer the semi-cleaned bone for about 45 minutes in a mix of ~2 gallons of water with 1/2 cup ammonia and 1/2 teaspoon or so of Dawn dish soap.  (Do this OUTSIDE, or under a really really good exhaust fan.)

Remove the bone and allow it to cool to room temperature.  Don't try to accelerate the cooling by plunging it into cold water: this will sometimes cause cracks, and some will seem to show up about the time you are polishing your finished product.  DAMHIKT. 

Once the bone is cool, use a stiff brush and scrapers to remove any remaining soft tissue.  A stiff nylon brush is probably best, but I have used brass wire brushes.  Stainless steel brushes will score the bone, possibly enough to make it unusable for your project.  I usually use a nylon "toothbrush" from the auto parts store, and a couple of scrapers made from bamboo skewers.  The bamboo won't damage the bone, and I can throw them away when done.  Once cleaned of residual soft tissue, let it dry for a few days to a week. 

Next comes de-greasing.  The usual approach here is to soak the bone for a 2-3 weeks in white gas (everyone I know uses Coleman fuel).  Most folks soak in a (closed) glass jar.  I usually cut the bone down to "blanks" (rough cut knife scales, turning stock, etc) before degreasing.  Depending on container and bone size, you can usually soak 2-3 bones worth of blanks in a quart of white gas.  Store your soaking container outside in the shade, or at least in an unoccupied outbuilding away from any source of ignition. . . because, well, it is a breakable container of flammable liquid.   

When the gas gets discolored (takes on a brownish tint), grease is dissolving out of the bone and you need to change the gas.  Dispose of the greasy gas appropriately.  After a couple-three weeks and at least a couple changes of gas, remove the bone from the gas and allow it to dry in a safe place.  It will usually dry in a bout an hour.  If it takes longer, or if there are translucent spots that seem to shrink, the bone still has grease in it: back to soak in more (new) gas. 

If, after working the bone to whatever your end product is, you feel it needs to be bleached, don't use chlorine bleach: the bleach will cause the bone to begin breaking down.  Instead, use hydrogen peroxide from the drugstore (3%, IIRC), for no more than 10-15 minutes.  If you leave it in the peroxide for too long, it becomes "flat" and looks like someone rubbed white shoe polish on it.   

Some further thoughts:

What I described above isn't the only way to do it, but it is a common approach that has been generally successful for 100 years.  In theory, something like lacquer thinner might substitute for white gas.  Everyone I know who has tried it goes back to white gas; in my own experiments lacquer thinner took longer to de-grease the bone, and cost more. 

Thicker bone (we're talking mammoth leg bone here, or shinbones from draft animals, etc) will take longer, and more changes of white gas.  The times I've tried, mammoth bone seemed to take forever to de-grease.  I guess it makes sense that the grease would have thoroughly-penetrated the bone in the thousands of years it has been sitting in permafrost, but it is a pain to work with. 

Don't use the "greasy" white gas in lanterns or stoves.  It creates an incredibly foul smell and clogs up the burners.  (But it was hilarious to see the guy who called me "wasteful" try to explain the results to his wife!) 

My limited experiments with stronger concentrations of hydrogen peroxide to bleach bone seemed to show no real improvement over drugstore concentrations, and higher concentrations did cause some degradation of the bone if left long enough. 

Offline mikeyfirelock

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 468
  • Built 1st gun in dorm room at college
Re: How to prep bone for inlays
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2025, 04:15:08 PM »
Habu….. many thanks for your very thorough and concise explanation.  I shall consider this procedure ( while I am soldering up the nosecap for the current build !)
Seriously. This looks like a good winter project to lay in a supply of material for some future builds…….many thanks for your expertise.  I will be stopping at the local butcher shop.
mikeyfirelock.
Mike Mullins

Offline rich pierce

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 19682
Re: How to prep bone for inlays
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2025, 04:18:33 PM »
Agree, excellent detailed procedure.
Andover, Vermont

Offline foxm2015

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 68
Re: How to prep bone for inlays
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2025, 05:25:01 PM »
As mentioned previously use some type of dust abatement and also use a dust mask that is appropriate for the particle type/size present.

An old friend of mine created long term lung issues for himself by processing antler and bone by not using personal protective equipment.

All the best on your new endeavor.

Offline Pukka Bundook

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3530
Re: How to prep bone for inlays
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2025, 06:18:20 PM »
Mikey,
In my case I used old bones from the muskeg, buffalo and such, so no need to degrease as they had been in the ground forever.
This may not be an option to you though! LOL.

Horse bones hold more grease than cattle bones it seems.

Offline Robby

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2667
  • NYSSR ―
Re: How to prep bone for inlays
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2025, 07:27:30 PM »
Plenty of places offer bones for sale. Try googling. Here's one.
https://www.worldwidewildlifeproducts.com/store/pc/home.asp
Robby
molon labe
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. A. Lincoln

Online Hungry Horse

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5577
Re: How to prep bone for inlays
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2025, 08:47:32 PM »
 The mention of piano keys jogged my memory regarding inlay material. A friend owned a California made muzzleloading rifle that went from the California gold fields to the arctic gold fields and back. While in the Arctic it got some ivory inlay. But by the time it made its trip back to California and wound up in a collection it had lost a few. A free piano alongside the road provided the hard to get ivory panels to make the missing inlays.

Hungry Horse

Offline Flint62Smoothie

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 487
Re: How to prep bone for inlays
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2025, 09:19:41 PM »
FWIW my friend Rick from ‘down Maine’ made these, in the pre-Internet years no less, using moose bone, prepped as Habu stated.



All of my muzzleloaders will shoot into one ragged hole ALL DAY LONG ... it's just the 2nd or 3rd & other shots that tend to open up my groups ... !

Offline Pukka Bundook

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3530
Re: How to prep bone for inlays
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2025, 10:37:11 PM »
Hello Flint. Trust all is well!
Cant get on the other channel,
Messed about trying for ages, Then  gave up!
That Tzchinke (spelling@) looks like him and me were looking at some of the same photos when we did the inlays!

Offline Habu

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1196
Re: How to prep bone for inlays
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2025, 12:32:25 PM »
After seeing grease come out of Stellar's sea cow bone--an animal extinct since before 1800, with most bone sold being surface finds--I pretty much de-grease any bone I'm going to work.  But it is fair to ask if bone was de-greased in some manner back in the 18th-19th centuries.

I'm really not sure.  I've seen indications of grease coming out of worked bone on inlays in tools from the 1600s, scratted knife handles from the 1700s, sawn-bone Barlow handles from the 1700s and 1800s, and bone inlays on rifles from the 1850-1870s.  Was this due to poor selection of materials, or was it not considered worth worrying about?

Offline okawbow

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 915
  • West Tennessee/ Southern Illinois
Re: How to prep bone for inlays
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2025, 04:08:42 PM »
I can usually find deer bones in the woods when I’m mushroom hunting in the spring. Often the skulls are bleached white and have fairly large, flat surfaces to work with. Antler is basically bone also, and doesn’t require much prep.
As in life; it’s the journey, not the destination. How you get there matters most.

Offline Pukka Bundook

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3530
Re: How to prep bone for inlays
« Reply #14 on: Today at 03:54:30 AM »
Agreed Okawbow, antler needs no prep