Joe works in Asheville, NC as an optomologist. I see him fairly frequently. He hopes to retire from that business in the next few years and get back to doing some gun work. Joe was one of the very top builders in the 70's and 80's, and will be again if he ever gets back to building. In his spare time Joe is a long distance runner. On his 50th birthday he ran 50 miles, on his 60th...yep, he ran 60 miles.....I can't even imagine running even 2 miles.