barrel repair?

[karwelis]

i have a colt third model dragoon, one of those really shiny signature series jobs, well last year i was out shooting, and had the chain fire from $#*!. 3 holes went off! well one of those went out through the loading lever, blowing it in to who knows where. in the process it put a small dent in the under side of the barrel, which you can just see in the bore. what i want to know is who can "re-rifle" or re-bore the barrel? i really dont care if it has to be a smooth bore, after all i only shoot at about 25 yards.

[Dphariss]

Have it lined.

Dan

[karwelis]

Have it lined.

Dan

where and by who?

[Jerry V Lape]

My preference would be to have it rebarreled by the manufacturer or by any good pistol gunsmith.  That is a significant crushing of the barrel and  I would be concerned dent removal won't restore the metal's strength.  Lining is an option and lots of gunsmiths can do that. Can't tell if that dent is too deep to allow the drilling out of the bore for the liner. 

[Pete Allan]

If it is a very small dent it might shoot well. My 58 Rem revolver has the serial numbers on the bottom of the barrel hammered in so hard you can see it bulging into the bore and that gun has helped me to win the pistol championship at Friendship and set some records with it.  If it isn't bulged in dangerously it might shoot as well as it ever did.

[karwelis]

its very very shallow, getting it "re-barreled" isnt an option, they dont make these any more

[karwelis]

If it is a very small dent it might shoot well. My 58 Rem revolver has the serial numbers on the bottom of the barrel hammered in so hard you can see it bulging into the bore and that gun has helped me to win the pistol championship at Friendship and set some records with it.  If it isn't bulged in dangerously it might shoot as well as it ever did.

looking down the bore its barely noticeable, i would be concerned with lead build up

[keweenaw]

It would probably be cheaper to buy an replacement barrel from one of the Italian manufacturers than to reline and repair your barrel.

[karwelis]

It would probably be cheaper to buy an replacement barrel from one of the Italian manufacturers than to reline and repair your barrel.

and loose the "colt" bluing for something inferior? no way!

[BrownBear]

I've been down this particular pike a few times with dents in shotgun barrels.  I doubt the methods would apply (or the tools available OTC), but with shotgun bores a skilled worker can remove dents from the inside.  Worth a chat with a good shotgun mechanic, but I wouldn't be 100% optimistic by any means.  You just might be stuck in wallhanger land unless you can find parts.  It's certainly not a "collector" in it's mangled state, so gunsmithing could at least turn it back into a shooter.

[karwelis]

which is what im looking for! who out there can re-bore the barrel. a new barrel is not an option. can any one supply contact info for somebody that can do the work?

[T*O*F]

where and by who?

Bobby Hoyt can do it for you.  He does them all the time.
Someone else will have to provide his contact info.
I don't have it handy.

[Jerry V Lape]

I don't think Colt made them anyway.  They may have been finished by Colt but the parts, if not the entire pistol, most likely came from Uberti and they are still making them.  As for the Colt finish, there are number of good metal finishing guys can reproduce that Colt finish.  You are going to need a reloading gate and a few other parts as well.  Especially new nipples so you don't have another chain fire the next time out. 

[keweenaw]

Reaming this out to a smooth bore would be no problem, any competent gunsmith or machinist for that matter could do it for you if you were willing to buy the appropriate decimal reamer - say $20 if he didn't have one which he probably won't - but the barrel would have to be fixtured for the lathe to save your finish which would take some time - I would estimate this in my shop at a 2-3 hour job.  Reboring and re rifling is not an option as that would enlarge the caliber.  Relining involves drilling out the barrel, and soldering in a new liner.  Unless someone has a cut off piece of a liner laying around, a 44 cal liner, rifle length liner costs about $100, labor to install would be about the same time or a bit less than reaming out.

Most of your parts can come from http://www.coltparts.com/pt_2dragoon.html but in any event you're going to spend more than half the cost of buying a new Uberti, who made the revolver in the first place, and close to the cost of buying one of these used.

[keweenaw]

Another source for parts is http://www.vtigunparts.com/store/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=7&cat=Uberti+3rd+Model+Dragoon.  A new barrel is $135.

[Dave Faletti]

It is a long shot but have you checked with Colt for parts.  They wouldn't necessarily throw out extra parts when they discontinued them though not likely to have the whole barrel.  I would not count on Uberti parts fitting if you go that way.  Colt made their own new production which is why they argued they weren't a replica.  Threads on old Colt, new Colt and european made are not the same.  Some of the other dimensions may not be the same as I noticed the cartridge conversions are different for the various manufacturers of 1858 Rem replicas.  Best of luck however you go.

[karwelis]

i want to have it reamed to a smooth bore, who has a contact that can do this. I WILL NOT REPLACE THE BARREL

[keweenaw]

Bobby Hoyt is the man you want but you might be in for a long wait.   Your local good gunsmith, whoever that might be, can also do  this.  It isn't a difficult job.

717 642 6696

Bob Hoyt
700 Fairfield Station Rd
Fairfield, PA 17320