« previous next »
Pages: 1 [2]   Go Down

Author Topic: Rifling and Boring machines  (Read 32318 times)

Offline b bogart

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 695
Re: Rifling and Boring machines
« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2010, 07:21:46 PM »
Ken your assumptions are correct! At least in my case.
Logged

Offline tim crowe

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 196
Re: Rifling and Boring machines
« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2010, 07:47:54 PM »
Ken,
It looks like Wyatt Atkinson made 48" rifled barrels and 36- 40" [?] rifled barrels with the 2 different worms; or with different twist rate? Anyone know how tall Wyatt is to compare the worm lenght?
Logged

Offline Acer Saccharum

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 19311
    • Thomas A Curran
Re: Rifling and Boring machines
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2010, 07:52:45 PM »
Back in the day, many folks bought drilled/reamed blanks from Remington and rifled them in their own style.
Logged
Tom Curran's web site : http://monstermachineshop.net
Ramrod scrapers are all sold out.

Offline Sequatchie Rifle

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 978
  • F. & A.M. Helion #1; 3rd SFG(ABN)
Re: Rifling and Boring machines
« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2010, 06:50:01 AM »
Ken-
Wyatt Atkinson's machine is the one I took to the Tennessee Rifle show in April 09.  We have a bunch of cutting tools with it too.  You're welcome to try it out, just let me know and I'll haul it over the mountain.

Bill
Logged
"We fight not for glory, nor riches nor honors, but for freedom alone, which no good man gives up except with his life.” Declaration of Arbroath, 1320

Offline Blackpowder Barbie

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1670
    • Jim Chambers Flintlocks
Re: Rifling and Boring machines
« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2010, 10:44:23 PM »
We're going to have the guys from The Gun Shop back at Friendship in June with their antique rifling machines.  They usually bring three or four and different ones each time they come and demo for us.  They set up on the back of Gunmaker's Hall and rifle during the first weekend.  I used to have a few photos of them, but I can't find them now.  I'll try and make sure I get some good photos of them and the machines this June! 
Logged
Barbie Chambers-Phillips

Offline Ken G

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5526
  • F & AM #758
Re: Rifling and Boring machines
« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2010, 03:04:58 AM »
Barbie,
I had a couple from last year.  These are from behind Gun Makers Hall  at Friendship last year.






« Last Edit: May 12, 2010, 03:06:06 AM by Ken Guy »
Logged
Failure only comes when you stop trying.

Offline Robby

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2655
  • NYSSR ―
Re: Rifling and Boring machines
« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2010, 02:30:58 PM »
Quote from: Acer Saccharum on May 10, 2010, 07:52:45 PM
Back in the day, many folks bought drilled/reamed blanks from Remington and rifled them in their own style.
Would that be, like yesterday?
Robby
Logged
molon labe
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. A. Lincoln

Offline Blackpowder Barbie

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1670
    • Jim Chambers Flintlocks
Re: Rifling and Boring machines
« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2010, 11:28:11 PM »
Great Ken!  Thanks.  I'll try and get a few detailed ones for the forum this year come June!
Logged
Barbie Chambers-Phillips

Offline Ken G

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5526
  • F & AM #758
Re: Rifling and Boring machines
« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2010, 03:10:06 AM »
I found a few more. 







Logged
Failure only comes when you stop trying.

FG1

  • Guest
Re: Rifling and Boring machines
« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2010, 04:12:49 AM »
Ken , did you get any pics of the types of cutters ?
Logged

Offline Ken G

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5526
  • F & AM #758
Re: Rifling and Boring machines
« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2010, 04:14:07 AM »
Sorry, Not a one.  Sometimes you get caught up in the moment and forget the important part.
Ken
Logged
Failure only comes when you stop trying.

Offline Dave B

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3132
Re: Rifling and Boring machines
« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2010, 07:44:32 AM »
One of these days I will get this old girl up and running. It can be used for boring as well as rifling. The sign bar is removeable so you could place a gain twist bar on it if you wanted to. These were the cutters that came with it.





Logged
Dave Blaisdell

Offline David Veith

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 611
    • davids painting
Re: Rifling and Boring machines
« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2010, 03:39:20 PM »
Just some follow up info. From the Friendship photos. First Photo The person cut in half is Henry Overmeyer Blue Shirt is John Graeckle and Tom Oakes is in the apron. The all wood bench on the right side is the Beaner bench a copy of one.  I don't know where Tom and Henry got or saw one at. The blue one I am guessing was made by someone we call Indiana John. I have seen this one.
Sec photo First bench has the lead as far as we know from Peter Rienharts bench Second is Bill Hovers Bench. The third one is Henry's it works on the ideas off of Pope's bench   

David Veith






 
 
Logged
David Veith

Offline Acer Saccharum

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 19311
    • Thomas A Curran
Re: Rifling and Boring machines
« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2010, 04:15:36 PM »
fabulous stuff, guys. Keep it comin'

Tom
Logged
Tom Curran's web site : http://monstermachineshop.net
Ramrod scrapers are all sold out.

Offline Dan Herda

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 225
Re: Rifling and Boring machines
« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2010, 08:13:22 PM »
Great pix of the cutters.It blows my mind that the most simple appearing or primitive looking cutter could do what it does.Would love to see this in person one day.Hopefully! It would be interesting to hear from the operators how the two different cutter styles perform. That top and bottom appear to have zero or slightly positive rake and the middle one is negative rake. More a scraper than a "cutter". Throughout the riffling process, did they ever use a rougher and a finisher or did they just touch up the bit when ready to finish?
Cool thread, hope to see more!
Logged

Offline B. Hey

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 290
Re: Rifling and Boring machines
« Reply #40 on: May 14, 2010, 03:30:57 AM »
A thought that comes to mind .... "And we balk at the rising cost of barrels" ... This thread has certainly enlightened this old mans view. Great thread! Bill
Logged

Offline David Veith

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 611
    • davids painting
Re: Rifling and Boring machines
« Reply #41 on: May 14, 2010, 05:16:39 PM »
To continue the en-light might.  I did a barrel 40" ish long last fall it took about 12 + hours to do it. That doesn't include the time to make the cutter and float or head witch ever you want to call it. We have done them as little as 6 hours and some seam to take forever. 
David Veith
Logged
David Veith

Offline John SMOthermon

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 538
  • John SMOthermon
Re: Rifling and Boring machines
« Reply #42 on: May 15, 2010, 04:06:59 PM »
I'm sure many of you have seen these before. They are in DGW museum in Union City Tn. If you ever get near there it's worth stopping by.







Logged
Smo

Good Luck & Good Shootin'
Pages: 1 [2]   Go Up
« previous next »