Rifling and Boring machines

[Ken G]

After reading a recent post referencing to a boring machine and digging in the archives a week or so back on the subject; it seems there are several members that may have some interesting machines out there for rifling and boring barrels so....................
I thought I would ask to post some pictures.  I'd love to see them and I think there are others as well.  That goes for originals too.  I've seen some pretty good picture in the archives. 

Thanks in advance,
Ken

[FG1]

Yes ! Please do post some !

[b bogart]

I don't remember if I posted mine here or not, but I beleive I did. Should I again?
Haven't used it yet. Need to find a VERY economical smoothbore to attempt it. Might even talk Tim Crosby into coming  up a joining in the fun!

[Dan Herda]

I have a great interest in this as well and hope to see some examples,both modern and of vintage. Also detailed pix of the cutters would be great!I would especially like to see sign bar adjustable machines.

[Ken G]

Bruce,
Please post the pictures again.  It would be nice to get a lot of pictures and information in one thread and on the new board.
Thanks,
Ken

[b bogart]

Ok Ken I'll see if I can find them.

[fm tim]

Chuck Dixon normally has someone actually using a rifling machine at the fair in July.

[tim crowe]

Ken
You and I need to get our rifling benches done , so you can post pics. I have not gotten any farther than cutting the grooves but the bench is built.

I am also working on a sine bar rifler for variable twist.

Swab

[Ken G]

Tim,
Bookie's Ol'#1 is not far from being back in business at this point. (attached Photos) Lack of shop space is requireing the bench to be something I can take apart and put back together.  
I cut the last groove on the little pistol rifler last night so I'm making slow progress.   I'll start the frame next week.  
FM Tim,
I think that would be Chris Laubach and his Dad at Dixons.  I hope he'll post some pics too.  

Cheers,
Ken

[fm tim]

Ken,

Thanks for the information

[angus]

Ken,
That's a good looking rifling bench you've got going.
Are you putting the wife on the handle to work it for the first time?

[Paul Hamler]

I helped a friend of mine build this CNC rifling machine. The lathe was origionally a vertical mounted CNC glass lathe. My friend was computer challenged and had little interface with Windows, the challenge was to have an interface that was fast and easy to operate. Using a visual basic interface you type in the variables you want,such as length of barrel,depth of groove ,twist rate, etc.
Once all data is entered on the screen pressing enter generates the G code to run the machine and off you go. The cost for building the electronics and controller program was around $2000.00 ,anyone interested in building one I will share the software free.







More pictures at  http://hamlertools.smugmug.com

[Don Getz]

Paul.....I think you still have a "little" work to do before you're ready to rifle a barrel.    I can see a lot of stuff that is missing at this point...........Don

[Acer Saccharum]

I can see a lot of stuff that is missing........Don

How can you see what is not there?

This needs no sine bar, no rack and pinion....it's the digital age, Don. 

Tom

[b bogart]

Here's one picture

and the other side I hope.

[FG1]

Bruce , is the index in the round piece by handle ?

[brobb]

Here is one built by Gary Amhrien with the help of some of his friends.

[b bogart]

Yes, it is a twisted bar pulled thru that disc to provide the twist. I have not used this as of yet. I need to find a cheap smooth barrel to try it on.

[Sequatchie Rifle]

Ken,
I'll get a few photos of the Atkinson Rifling Machine and send them to you the next time I'm home.  But I have emailed you a few other photos to post.

[Don Getz]

Tom.....I understand the general operation of the thing, but, there's still a lot missing.   Didn't see any rifling heads, cutters, rods to attach them to, how are you going to keep cutting oil on the cutters, etc.    Can it be indexed for any
number of grooves?  etc, etc, etc.............    Machine looks great but there's still a lot of work to be done before you can
rifle a barrel with it.............Don

[flintriflesmith]

Here are some pictures of the boring and rifling machines in use at the Colonial Williamsburg Gunshop in about 2007.
Scroll down the page past the barrel welding.

http://www.flintriflesmith.com/ToolsandTechniques/barrel_making.htm

Gary
 

[Ken G]

Thanks for the photos and links.   Some interesting and unique ways/rigs for accomplishing the same task.

Bruce B.,
Where is the guide that forces the bar to twist?  In the head ? I assume the tube is to keep it from whipping and bending?  

Gary,
Any idea how many barrels have been rifled with that rifler?  Looks like it has seen some action.

Thanks for posting guys.

[Ken G]

Sequatchie Rifle emailed these photos of Wyatt Atkinson.  That's a pretty cool boring machine he has too.  I assuming he is in his 40s I'd guess this photo was taken in the early 1920s?

[David Veith]

I don't store the one I am in partner ship with here at the house the group that I hang my hat with have about 20 between a dozen guys. probably the most intersecting ones are:One of the leads from Peter Rienhart bench so we have been tolled. One made on the principle of Pope's. Some gain twist some straight twist. The bench and the lead is the easy part as far as I am concern. It is the cutter that give me head acks. But I am SLOWLY getting better at them.
I just don't do it offend enough to get good.
David Veith

[Robby]

I really enjoy seeing these machines, especially the older wooden ones. Do you buy pilot drilled raw stock for  use with these rifling machines?
Robby